Do you think you need a subwoofer?


Why almost any one needs subwoofers in their audio systems?

I talk with my audio friends about and each one give me different answers, from: I don't need it, to : I love that.

Some of you use subwoofers and many do in the speakers forum and everywhere.

The question is: why we need subwoofers ? or don't?

My experience tell me that this subwoofers subject is a critical point in the music/sound reproduction in home audio systems.

What do you think?
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Dear friends: This last experience that improve the low bass performance confirms to me that one critical factor to achieve " stellar " near " perfect " top quality system performance is try to improve the low bass quality performance in our audio systems.

Of course that room treatment help a lot but the subwoofers alternative is a very good " road " to make it and when we already have it then work in deep to achieve the best on it.

Every single day that pass and that I listen my " new " system is an immense joy/enjoy of the musi like never before.

Subject is that real low bass is a desirable factor but the real subject is to have that real low bass in " pristine " condition, when you achieve this your " idea " of top system quality performance change: you discover(y) a " new " world that you have in " front " of you ( with some systems up-dates ) and that you don't know is there but you can have it.

IMHO as much as you improve that bass response ( lowering IMD too. ) as much you improve the whole/overall ( in all single sound reproduction areas. ) performance of your system.
Yes, I'm really exite/rouse about and IMHO I think that everyone has the " right " to hear this kind of performance level where I know you can make it.
Sometimes is difficult to express these top/new experiences in words and as a fact maybe we can understand in precise/deep way when we hear it.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
I have Klipsch Lascala's that don't dig real deep in the lower frequencies. That being said, I love the the tight realistic bass they provide. I don't want to ruin that sound with a slower muddy bass response that a subwoofer would provide. If I could find THAT perfect sub, I'd jump on it.
Dear Utahusker: As you posted LaScala maybe can/could give you clean in room response down to 50-55 Hz no deep bass.

Now, you don't have to loose what you have, the " idea " is to improve what you ( we ) have.

The La Scala woofer crossover is 400 Hz that tell us that that woofer works near 600 Hz, a wide frequency range that makes that the IMD go high and against quality performance.

+++++ " I don't want to ruin that sound with a slower muddy bass response that a subwoofer would provide. " +++++

if you can please read here to understand about and to understand how the subs can/could help to improve the quality performance of your home audio system:

http://www.soundstage.com/maxdb/maxdb061999.htm
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1117893153&openflup&27&4#27

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
This one could help you too: http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1117893153&openflup&84&4#84

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Raul, that Soundstage article is the exact description of my own experience on integrating subwoofers with ESL pannels, thank you, relieves another myth from the global audiophile conciousness...something is hard to fight against even if your own experience proofs the contrary. This article gives me some fresh air and I feel more comfortable not beeing totaly wrong.