Driving Totem Forrests with 40W Tubes???


I am considering upgrading my Totem Arros to the Forrest, and am wondering if my PrimaLuna Prologue Two will yield acceptable results until I move to tube monoblocks? Would I be better with the Hawks? I would have them set up in a 8'7" x 11'0" alcove off a 435sf room. Any thoughts from Totem owners powering their Totems with tubes would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
jh2os
This may help a little - you did ask for feedback from any of us tube + Totem users...

I'm running my Hawks with a 100wpc Audio Research VS110 and the sound is amazingly effortless. At 86db/6ohms for the Hawk vs 87db/8ohms for the Forest, one would think they offer very similar loads to the amplifier.

Don't discount the Hawk, as they are an absolutely excellent speaker with great speed and finesse due to the smaller driver. I (now) run mine without a sub and get a huge amount of bass from them.
I am going to give both the Hawk and the Forrest a listen next week. It's been awhile since I've heard either.
Jh2os,
I am interested in buying the Prologue Two to drive my Totem Forests (using a very cheap Jolida for the moment).
Did you listen the Forests with your Prologue Two? What did you find out?

Thanks,
Al
Al, I am currently listening to the Forests powered by the PrimaLuna Prologue Two, and am pleasantly surprised at how well the Two powers the Forests. Many say these need 200W+ to open up, but with tube power I think you can get by with less.

I heard the Forests powered by the Krell kav400xi at a local dealer and was impressed. I brought one home to hear the differences compared with the PrimaLuna. The Krell did open some things up in terms of transparency. The imaging was a little tighter and the tonal accuracy of instruments was more accurate. The upper registers of female vocals could become fatiguing after long listening sessions at high volumes.

Having said all that, the PrimaLuna was simply more emotionally involving IMO - and that is the most important thing to me. The bass was surprisingly more present with the PrimaLuna. The bass was so tight on the Krell that it was almost non-existent? There is some added 'bloom' to vocals on the PrimaLuna compared to the Krell, and in that I mean they seemed a little exaggerated in size, not in colorization. Female vocals are sublime!

The PrimaLuna was just easier to sit back and enjoy the music with. I found myself over analyzing the presentation with the Krell too often. The PrimaLuna was simply more enjoyable and sucked me into the music.

Hearing some of the benefits of added power with the Krell, a more powerful tube amplifier would probably only add more of a good thing. PrimaLuna is releasing monoblocks (rated at 60-70WPC?) in the near future and I think these would make a great pairing as well.

I did contact Totem, and they recommended the Audio Research vsi55. I also inquired about the BAT vk55 (as I am now a fan of the autobiasing feature) and Totem said that it should mate well. I could live happily ever after with the PrimaLuna Prologue Two, but I have to be honest that I am curious to see what a little more in terms of tube power will bring to the table. I am most looking forward to the Prologue monoblocks.
I now have a Simaudio i-5 in house as well to pair with the Totems and I must say I am pretty impressed with this pairing!

The Sim brings some added control while remaining 'warm' with an inviting presentation. There are also no signs of upper end shrillness that can/could cause fatigue as was present on the Krell with some material.