DSP'ing a CD

Hi folks,

I'm intrigued by the concept of digital room correction using devices like the Tact or Lyngdorf. However no-one in my neck of the woods sells them, so I've never had a chance to hear what they could do for me.

Here's an thought - instead of adding a digital room correction device, could you:

1) use a spl meter (or a sound card & mic) to determine your room's response
2) enter the measurements into software that will calculate the EQ curve that would correct your room's uneven response
3) rip a cd using EAC or similar
4) digitally apply the EQ curve to the wav files
5) burn to CD and play

You should then hear what your room would sound like if you'd used DSP, but without the possibly deleterious effects of adding a DSP device into your rig.

Would this work? Anyone already doing it?

I haven't done it, but it's a subject of interest to many. Why EQ in real time if your room is relatively constant.

This link might be of interest:

Tarsando ... that's fine if there's enough horsepower to do it in real time. Doing in non-real-time might be a possibility to allow the use of non-specialized hardware (a PC, for example) or to allow more accurate filters to be used.
What you propose will work, but it won't duplicate the results of a TACT unit. Proper room equalisation also corrects for certain time based distortions that won't be revealed by steady tone measurements. You'll also have to repeat the procedure every time you make a change to your system that effects tonal balance. Also your method will be heavily biased towards the volume level chosen during the measurement stage and won't be appropriate at all volume levels. That said, give it a try and see what you think. It could be better than no correction at all.
It is possible. What you describe is what mathematicians call a deconvolution filter...you apply a filter to the signal so that what you get back is only the original signal.

Think of what you hear as the original signal convolved with the response function of the room. You just need to design a time series filter to extract the orginal (remove all reflections of the room response).

Unforunately noise will interfere with the exact process and furthermore it only works mathematically for ONE precise position in the room to less than an inch (as the room response function changes with your relative position and rapidly so at higher frequencies)

It is simpler just to remove the room response by putting on a pair of headphones but then it sounds unnatural....this suggests that the goal is not necessarily to remove the room response entirely, as room reverberation is pleasing and helps us hear more in the music.

So it is really a very complex issue altogether which nobody has solved yet.

A TACT or PEQ can compensate for some of the worst room modal offences at the very lowest frequencies. This is practical because LF frequencies have a large effect in a room over a wide area.

Since we are sensitive to timbre and the way signals decay it not strictly ideal to compensate for room modes by attenuating the signal as in a PEQ: Room Acoustic Treatment is really the best solution, including some trial and error, as Professor Sabin discorvered. (Unlike a PEQ, room acoustic treatment tackles the reverberation tail in the signal but leaves the primary signal unadulterated)

Designing great music halls is an art just as much as it is an engineering feat.