Leaving aside our differences regarding to use or not to use a dust cover, I am thinking about your hypothesis that right now your turntable/cover are together acting according to the principle of a Helmholtz Resonator. The idea does "resonate", but so far as I can tell from my reading, a Helmholtz Resonator requires air (or whatever fluid is resonating) to be put into motion. Energy has to be put into the system for that to happen. In your conception, what is the source of energy? I would offer an alternative hypothesis, for good or ill. Could it be that energy being emitted by the cartridge body, the same energy that is heard as "cartridge noise" is bouncing around under the cover which is by chance tuned to resonate at a low bass frequency, which is why it is excited only when you play certain LPs with low bass frequencies and at a certain SPL above some threshold that causes the whole thing to get excited and re-enforce itself via positive feedback? That is what I meant when I remarked that you are experiencing a problem that I associate with dust covers per se. I put this out there for discussion, not to antagonize or criticize. In my own experience, when I played LPs with dust cover down, inevitably the dust cover itself could be felt to be vibrating, I always thought sympathetically with cartridge vibrations.
Dustcover Blues
Most of you probably know that I have always championed the use of dustcovers on turntables even during play, the goal being to protect the record from the environment and shield it from sound. For the first time in my audio career I have stumbled into a problem with this and other than not putting the dustcover down I have not come up with a solution.
Yesterday I was playing Herbie Hancock's Secrets and I cranked it on my favotite song. After about 30 seconds the room started to rumble. My subs were putting out a remarkably clean 20 Hz as if I were playing a test tone. Feedback! Just turn the volume down a little and it disappears. Turn the volume back up and within 30 seconds it starts up again. Did I screw up my cartridge set up? I veiwed the tonearm during the feedback and it was rock solid. Usually with low frequency feedback you can see the tonearm shaking. I played the resonance tracks on an Ortofon test record and both lateral and vertical resonance were centered on 9 Hz With the feedback going and the house shaking I wanted a better look at the cantilever. On lifting the dustcover the feedback stopped! The dust cover is attached to the plinth which is isolated from the sub chassis (tonearm and platter mounted on this) by four springs. The resonance frequency of this suspension is 2 Hz. Nothing above 2 Hz can pass directly through to the platter and tonearm. What is going on here? Any of you scientists out there have a clue? My best guess is that I am dealing with a type of Helmholtz resonation. The dust cover is lowered on four hard rubber pads, one at each corner. There is a 1/16" slot all the way around. This combined with the weight and dimensions of the dust cover creates a resonance at 20 Hz. To get it going I have to turn the volume way up.
Today when I get home I'll play around with it to see if I can figure it out. Any ideas would be appreciated.
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Audioguy, very incorrect. The dust cover was initially intended to keep dust and polution off of everything including the record. Why do records get noisier after repeated play? Groove wear does not make noise. It makes distortion. Why do people feel the need to spend a lot of money cleaning their records? I can afford any record cleaner on the market but don't feel the urge to buy one. I use a electrostatic loudspeakers and would think dirty records would bother me as much as anyone else. I am also very fastidious. Brandon2, that is what most people with a dust cover will tell you. I hear slightly better focus with the dustcover down at louder volumes. I would be the first to tell you this might be psychological. At low volumes I can not hear a difference either. @lewm , Several reasons why I do not think that tracking noise is the problem. My cartridge produces very little tracking noise. You can barely hear it with your ear up to the cartridge and it is only very high frequenies that you hear. Pressing down on the dustcover and sealing off the opening at the bottom of the dustcover stops the feedback. Neither of these would affect tracking noise. It starts with loud low fequency sound and that is were the energy initially comes from. You are dealing with very long wavelengths, 30 feet plus. As the pressure increases around the dustcover air rushes into the slot at the bottom lifting the cover up then as the low pressure part of the wave passes, air rushes out from under the dustcover dropping it. The same frequency is reproduced and you get a positive feedback loop. The big question in my mind is why is the tonearm/cartridge picking this up? It is over an octave away from the resonance point. Is air moving in and out from under the dust cover actually moving the tonearm. There is a venturi effect. The counterweight might be acting as a sail and it is always close to the edge of the dustcover wear velocities would still be high. @mapman , Do you hear a difference with the dust cover up or down? The microphone is now positioned on the Sota's platter and we are getting warmed up to run these curves. |
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