Eh hem!...Subwoofers... What do ya know?

I’ve always been able to hear where they are . And thats not good . Its the room and the placement  and its the equalization. I am happiest I’ve ever been after duke and tim shed some light on dukes swarm . Its incredible. What it did to my mains and the whole room is beautiful. Unfortunately not everyone  is going to have room for 4+ subs.   A single high dollar sub would cost as much but not be able to compete sound wise. 

Everytime i hear a rig with a sub for 2 channel, i can HEAR the subwoofer, its not a balanced / natural tone to my ears.

And this is the problem for me, who bats for team sub. Most subwoofers are not integrated well.


When they are, they are magic, when not, they call attention to themselves.


When speakers and subs are done correctly with moderate room treatment and EQ they all disappear. The benefit of the sub seems to improve the performance of everything, not just percussion and movies, and extend the dynamic range apparently to infinity.



So, what to advise a music lover who just wants good sound?  That is the question.  Get a big enough speaker, and you end up with the same issues. Get naive or poor room EQ, with poor room acoustics, and you end up with a frankenspeaker effect.

WOW!

What a bunch of total bass freaks!

My magnepan 3.6’s drop off at 30 Hz and sound great.

Bass quality has a lot to do about power amp quality. You can not be a cheapskate.

How much musical info is below 30 anyway?

To hear sound below 30 you need way too much volume. That would disturb my neighbors below.

And the peaks, valleys, and echo slap are too much to deal with.

Multiple (4 or 5) subwoofers ruin the bass sounstage.

Don c55 
 
have you exhaustively set up , tweeked then disliked 4 subwoofers ? It makes your sound stage that much bigger. The beauty part is that you dont make your bass any louder. each device runs a bit lower . And if set up properly , puts the bass focused where you want it. If there was content would you not want to hear it ? Especially considering its at the portion of the audible spectrum that doesnt require bat ears . Your sound stage is freed of the mud that is made with poorly set up system .