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theaudiotweak
1,363 posts
09-15-2016 12:49pm
Geoff,

When a thunderstorm rocks and rolls thru the limestone creek bed outback I can’t hear that noise thru my cello’s body laying on the concrete floor. Nor when the train a mile away can be heard late at night and under some different atmosphere that has the same non effect. I have tried. What may be good science for living on a fault line or under the elevated sure faults up speaker and audio components when listening to music.

You and some others have built a better mouse trap, one that does not allow for an efficient method for the wave forms that are self generated within any electronic component or speaker to leave the chassis. You have become highly accomplished at isolating this self generated component noise within a metal container or wooden box so it can be left to contaminate the signal that is to follow. Self perpetuating noise pollution for sure. What you won’t let in, won’t let anything out either.

Tom

I can’t tell whether you’re slow or just pretending to be slow. I’ve already stated on more than three occasions on this thread and elsewhere on these fora that both vibration isolation AND some way of dissipating vibrations generated by motors, transformers, acoustic waves in the room hitting the component, etc. I never said vibration isolation solves all vibration problems. I have always included a means for internal vibration to exit the isolation system, including the component itself. As I've said repeatedly. Follow?

As I mentioned earlier LIGO uses springs and they are required to use what's best. Why more audiophiles don't use springs, well, you'll have to ask them. "I looked everywhere but couldn't find them" is a common refrain.

Diversionary answer.  LIGO is irrelevant.  How about a cheap bedspring for a violin endpin?  Now that would make the music come to life.  

Since no one in the Audiogon ecosystem appears to be using your products, how about a pic of your own system unless of course its a lonely walkman as Monsieur Greene insinuated.   

agear - you observe

Since no one in the Audiogon ecosystem appears to be using your products

Fact is Geoff is not the only proponent of spring based isolation from subsonic vibration and I along with many well regarded reviewers and experts are getting great results from the current Townshend kit. Your attempts to dismiss his emphasis on the need to deal with the vibrations impinging on our systems as well as those generated within them are unhelpful. Remember this entire debate was triggered by a manufacturers assertion that his carefully shaped spike would reject seismic interference, an assertion he has been unable to provide any evidence for

ps for those with good memories Machina Dynamica spring based platforms were highly desirable and much sought after back in the day on Vinyl Asylum, I'm sorry I did not get the chance to acquire one when they were available

Geoff

There are waveforms and portions of waveforms that your methods do not account for but they do alter. Your methods directly eliminate portions of these waveforms that are crucial to how a speaker diaphragm works, operates and makes sound. It is all text book, you just haven't compiled the data. I thought you were much faster. Tom

Agear wrote,

"Diversionary answer. LIGO is irrelevant. How about a cheap bedspring for a violin endpin? Now that would make the music come to life."

LIGO this the most sensitive physics experiment in history! the gravity waves which it detected finally last year had amplitude the diameter of a neutron. If LIGO uses springs as opposed to some cones or spikes or other coupling devices then springs are require to achieve the experiment objectives.

agear also wrote,

"Since no one in the Audiogon ecosystem appears to be using your products, how about a pic of your own system unless of course its a lonely walkman as Monsieur Greene insinuated."

I have already stated many times I’m using a portable Sony Walkman CD player and Sony Walkman cassette player for my sources. Are you dense or just pretending to be dense? Hel-loo! I'm certainly not trying to hide it, on the contrary. Duh! Besides, Michael Green is a big proponent of low mass audio systems. He’s just jealous that mine is the lowest mass system around at only 10 ounces and much lower mass than anything he has been able to come up with.