Establishing a common analog listening bias

Raul:
one question I have to add:
What about the pretty sibilant opening of the 1st track on side two "Tequila sunrise"?

It is even to some degree apparent on the CD.
Axel

Dear All, what Raul explained with his elaborating post is exactly what I meant.
Very good Raul !
It is about being able to describe certain sonic details as well as complete impressions on a common ground - a given (or several...) record with known pressing and VTA.

Sorry Eric, - I still don't see why my intentions which I explained over and over again still seem to be so mysterious?

If we have a known pressing of a readily available record and the known VTA, then we have for once a chance to run identical software - i.e. - all differences heard or unheard in various systems running with this or that particular record out of a selection of agreed upon LPs are differences in set-up (as Raul nicely explained with VTA settings altering balance and detail response) and abilities of the systems.

We can exchange our opinions and experiences on a common ground.
Thats it.

What I tried to explain in mere theory Raul did - apparently with better success - by a detailed example.
Raul - thank you!
Cheers,
D.

Dear friends: This Dertonarm " common ground " subject is really usefull not only for your own system set-up and for other system comparison ( including our each audio system items. ) but as heard again and again the " common ground " recordings we will learn more and more of those recordings till the time that when we hear the very first track on a different system that the one of us we know ( overall ) what is " happening " in that system. Of course that that " common ground " give us unique and universal audio language with no single frontier.

Using a " common ground " approach give us a constant parameter where we are really experienced and where the experiences can be repeat each time we try it. We have to hear those recordings ones and again many times in our system and in other systems before we obtain the faculty to discern in precise way what we are hearing through those recordings.

Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.

Hi: I forgot. the " common ground " recordings/tracks IMHO has to be that when these tracks are on target any other recording ( same VTA ) are at its best always.

Those reference tracks only could be taking like references when ( like Dertonarm says. )the tonearm/cartridge geometry is almost " perfect " on set-up where an out of target " parameter " can/could be hear/heard it.
Other important factor is that those precise details that we choose on each track must be of several kind: a hard to hear( distinguish. ) ones, natural sounding ones, precise and defined and with different " colors " trying to cope both frequency extremes.

There are other factors that could help but I think that those that I posted are good to start.

Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.

So, is someone going to actually pull together a demo CD of the tracks and make it available?

(ha, ha ... that was supposed to be a joke for all you analogue nuts)

Bob