Ethernet Clocking

I have tried Roon with and without DSP, I also have DSP in my speakers. I never said you can’t hear differences. I was questioning the notion it creates serious issues with SQ. I am sure it can if you haven’t the slightest idea what you’re doing. Nowsdays DSP should be in every system if you really want state of the art audio reproduction. You evidently don’t understand clocking in digital in properly designed DACs for the last 20 years.

@antigrunge2 ,

Schitt is trying to sell you stuff. They didn't even have proper measurement tools till quite late. I have no hesitation based on that guessing I know more about clocking and what it does. Did you mean DCS?  Once they understood who I was they would say much different things to me than you.

Do you have any tube gear?

Your comment on DSP unfortunately makes your ability to participate effectively in this conversation difficult. Tubes, your speakers, reflections, sound absorbing, and any number of things create far more uncontrolled non linear "processing" than an ADC/DSP/DAC of some quality ever will.

One of the reasons I like and respect Nelson Pass is he makes no excuses or false explanations for purposely using non linearity (distortion}. Don't believe everything you are told. 

@cindyment @djones51 

My full system is on this thread. I will not further engage in any discussion with both of you. Your church and mine on what sounds good are too far apart.

If you are working to achieve your goals using faith you may stumble on the target but it will be by luck. The results of our hobby are purely subjective preference but the underlying tenets are not and rejecting them because you don't believe them does not change that.

If I placed an ADC/DSP/DAC in your signal chain and you could not tell if it was there or not would you accept that you are currently wrong.

Thanks @cindyment the kind words.   I would not dispute your observations about USB ;-). You are probably right.

i learned one thing out of that thread, which is a twist on what I knew already: one can only share their experiences and knowledge with others.   What the do with it is up to them.  
I can’t stop folks from buying Ethernet reclocker, a fine asynchronous error-correcting protocol with no clock, neither should I.   I’m quite sure we will make warp drives work before we can explain what audiophile Ethernet switches and cables actually Do.  
In the mean time, I’ll continue to spend my money on DACs, preamps, amps, speakers, subs and room improvements,,other will do what they wanna do.
The one thing that bothers me is that there are equipment vendors that peddle bizarre stuff. If you’re a vendor that knows enough to build one of of top ten DACs on the planet, you know that external clocks are pointless.   I’m talking to you DCS.   Or you can explain to us why it’s not.  Not in terms of blah blah blah, but how it helps to clock the right bits in the Dac.    You won’t hear that, cause it does not. And that bothers me.