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Ethernet Clocking

i had previously reported that adding an Antelope 10m rubidium clock to the Etherregen results in major tightening of soundstage and location of individual instruments. To my great surprise adding filtering on the BNC 75 Ohms connection between clock and Etherregen results in substantial additional benefits. The filter used is a Mini-Circuits BLP-10.7-75+ DCto11MHZ model.

We are only beginning to understand how to maintain clean clocking on digital connections, it is of paramount importance to SQ.

antigrunge2
antigrunge2 OP
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@djones51,

 

as usual barking up the wrong tree: just try Roon with and without DSP. If you can‘t hear the difference, I can‘t help you. And the clocking issues I am talking about definitely have nothing to do with synchronising different DACs. Tiresome…

djones51
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I have tried Roon with and without DSP, I also have DSP in my speakers. I never said you can’t hear differences. I was questioning the notion it creates serious issues with SQ. I am sure it can if you haven’t the slightest idea what you’re doing. Nowsdays DSP should be in every system if you really want state of the art audio reproduction. You evidently don’t understand clocking in digital in properly designed DACs for the last 20 years.

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cindyment
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@antigrunge2 ,

Schitt is trying to sell you stuff. They didn't even have proper measurement tools till quite late. I have no hesitation based on that guessing I know more about clocking and what it does. Did you mean DCS?  Once they understood who I was they would say much different things to me than you.

Do you have any tube gear?

Your comment on DSP unfortunately makes your ability to participate effectively in this conversation difficult. Tubes, your speakers, reflections, sound absorbing, and any number of things create far more uncontrolled non linear "processing" than an ADC/DSP/DAC of some quality ever will.

One of the reasons I like and respect Nelson Pass is he makes no excuses or false explanations for purposely using non linearity (distortion}. Don't believe everything you are told. 

antigrunge2 OP
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@cindyment @djones51 

My full system is on this thread. I will not further engage in any discussion with both of you. Your church and mine on what sounds good are too far apart.

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cindyment
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If you are working to achieve your goals using faith you may stumble on the target but it will be by luck. The results of our hobby are purely subjective preference but the underlying tenets are not and rejecting them because you don't believe them does not change that.

If I placed an ADC/DSP/DAC in your signal chain and you could not tell if it was there or not would you accept that you are currently wrong.

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