Frustrated with Vinly

First of all i hope you understand that Technics is a NEW turntable and completely different internally from the old technics model discontinued long time ago.

The "GR" (available in balck and silver) is not a DJ turntable, but a slightly simplified version of the $4000 "G" and "GAE".

Maybe you have to see it in the real life, not on the picture, touch it and compare to the plastic belt drive toys from Rega.

Have you seen a Technics in real life in the shops ?
Here is a better images of GAE, the finishing is simply amazing, and none of the DJ turntables for Technics have such luxury finishing. The GR is very close for half price.

My advice is to stay away from the belt drive turntables, it’s inferior technology and what they are offering even at $2k is a rip-off (imo).

Turntable for DJs in the new Technics line is much cheaper "mk7", but not the GR, G, GAE.

The motor of G and GAE is simply the best direct drive servo available today in this world. Matsushita is huge, they made millions of Technics tunrtables and this is the only reason why their price is not 10 times higher like from small manufacturers.

Compared to $1700 they charge for brand new GR all those plastic Rega and related belt drive must be $300 max.

So belt drive for $300-500 might be ok, but belt drive for $2000 is rip-off.

If the look is more important for you then any vintage turntable is much better to look at in my opinion. 

This is my ex vintage Technics SP-10mkII that i bought for $1200 injcluding shipping in mint condition without plinth and tonearm. And this is what i bought next (Luxman PD-444) for less than $2k. 

@chakster 

You have nice gear. I am assuming you the Technics GR also, if so, what cartridge are you using or would recommend for it?

In the Pic, the GAE does look nice with it's finish. The GR looks a little less shiny but it is half the cost, so I get it.

By the way, what is the pitch control for? Is that geared more towards DJ's, what benefit would it have for a someone like me?

I do appreciate your input.

Thanks

The 1500 looks less DJ!

@jay73

You have nice gear. I am assuming you the Technics GR also, if so, what cartridge are you using or would recommend for it?

Thanks, on GR you can use wide range of cartridges, this is a medium mass tonearm (pretty good one), any cartridge with MID COMPLIANCE is a perfect match, "mid" is something like 20cu @ 10Hz. But don’t worry, almost any MM/MI cartridge with 20-30cu compliance figure (measured at 10Hz, not at 100Hz) is nice for this arm. Audio-Technica cartridges are mid compliance, most of the modern MC are mid compliance too. Some killer vintage MM are high compliance (30cu) and can be used too. I would not use any low compliance cartridge on this arm, but some people use them with higher mass headshell and technics subweight.

In the Pic, the GAE does look nice with it’s finish. The GR looks a little less shiny but it is half the cost, so I get it.

Yeah, exactly, the GAE is Limited Edition, the equal to GAE is "G".
For half price is "GR" in silver or in black.

By the way, what is the pitch control for? Is that geared more towards DJ’s, what benefit would it have for a someone like me?

Most of the Japanese direct drive have a pitch control, but normally it is rotary knob (very little), Technics made it like a fader. You can simply ignore it. But it’s a nice bonus to tune pitch when needed. If you’re musician (with a perfect pitch) you can actually hear it as a pitch of instrument (tonality), Technics explained it somewhere in details. If you’re not a musician you can just use it to make a tempo of the record a bit faster or slower (whatever you like).

When the pitch is in ZERO (locked in the middle) your record does not affected.

You have to try this turntable in some audio shop in your area, it’s really unbeatable, like a tank!

And i think this is best buy option if you want new for under $2k

Technics turntable provide superb speed stability, the highest torque you can imagine (immediate start on constant speed, not like those slow belt drives). This is a top class machine and the brand with strong reputation. 

It is MADE IN JAPAN

Like it or not , looks are important to each individual owner and their own preference. As well and more importantly that the outdated unattractive looks many feel the new Technics tables are,
No matter how much an individual advocates the purchase of something he doesn't own himself....the simple fact remains many many do not find its sound that appealing at all. 
Regardless of what some may rant about the Technics as the best and be all end all of turntables and shade all belts as toys....it would appear many many prefer the sound of those belt drives. An important reason to chose your option.
Thats the beauty of choice, it's personal , no matter how some try to make theirs the right or best choice for everyone else...