Garrott vs Soundsmith


I've been thinking about a new cart.Soundsmith Carmen 2Garrott Brothers p77i or Optim FGS
Let the opinions fly
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Thanks for all the Links Chak........
Wonderful information (thanks to Google Translate)....almost too much to absorb in one reading 🤔
I particularly like his closing paragraph.....

A good sound is a purely subjective thing. I never said that my cartridges are the best. I just make them in such a way that they sound the way I like. I do not expect that they will be to everyone's taste - this is impossible. Therefore, I look at the world peacefully.



What an surprise? One architect likes the other. However I am not
able to ''place'' his history. If he was only 3 years by the ''brothers''
then he was about 18 when returned to Switzerland. The ''right
age'' for the university. But then instead of electronics he chose
architecture. In Holland this is not considered as an ''academic
study'' so no  ''degree''. So referring to Einstein in this context is,
say, ''little bit'' exaggerated. Then all his argument are based on 
electronic or acoustic theoretical assumptions which we, the 
simply humans can't understand. That is why I asked Dover for
his opinion.
But he is obviously changed in (Dutch) New Zeeland and probably
expect from me ''begging'' instead of asking. Owing ''holy water''
does not, I hope , mean becoming ''holy'' yourself?  
Dear chakster, Nice to see this ''unknown'' info about Andreoli
but by quoting reviewers one should also mention the time
when those are written. Not only because of inflation. Otherwise 
many may try to get ,say, Magic Diamond for $2500. According 
to me in 2019 the Swiss price was 7000 CHF. Even more important 
is the possible case that if I try to sell my sample your info will 
ruin my expectation.  
And let's spread the lights on Reto Luigi Andreoli premium MOVING MAGNET cartridges under his brand  BLUELECTRIC. 

As i can see in this post from 2015 they were new at that time. 
This is when Bluelectric made MM pickup for the first time!

Here is a nice image of this MM cartridge called SHAKE Streamliner. 
As you can read below Streamliner MM models has unique SYNTHOBIONIC CANTILEVER! Pretended to be unbreakable. What??? Let's have another look.  

The MM pickup comes in two versions:

1) Bluelectric Shake Smooth Operator is the least expensive MM and also the least expensive Bluelectric pickup among the new and redesigned pickups.Shake in both versions has an output of 4.1mV, compliance of 16 and weight of 9 grams. Smooth Operator uses an alloy in cantilever.

2) Bluelectric Streamliner is the second version of the MM pickup Shake. Shake Streamliner uses the unique Bluelectric synthobionic unbreakable cantilever that is only manufactured by Bluelectric.

The Bluelectric Shake Streamliner will be in stock with a low quantity at the manufacturer, but will be mainly manufactured to order.

** It is interesting to the in specs that basic design is P777 (1980) and this is direct correlation to the Garrott Brothers P77 (look at the numbers). **

Bluelectric is for those who want the absolute best.
Some would say that prices are high, but considering the very long life, Bluelectric is among the very cheapest pickups in use.
The cost per hour is actually very very low.

I got some information online from Norwegian Distributor