Glanz moving magnet cartridges

Dear Dgob: http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1252605722&openflup&56&4#56

I bought on Argentina and now the cartridge is with my brother. Was the MF-71L ( non-integrated headshell but stand alone model. I don't know but maybe what you like are the additional integrated headshell design distortions, I never heard that integrated design and certainly I don't care about integrated headshell designs: I don't like it for very good reasons that already discussed in this and other threads. ) and was identical to the MF-100 ( tha's why I remember was the 71L. ) that performs similar but a little better than the Glanz sample ( my MF-100 was a NOS and not second hand as the Glanz. ).

Anyway, the MF-200 IMHO outperforms both Astatic/Glanz. I think you need to hear the MF-200 and I'm sure that's as other MF-200 you will be surprised.
My MF-300 is on the road to Axel for an up date and to find out the Astatic up quality performance limits, the MF-200 on stock fashion is great one.

Btw, no I'm not ignorant on the Glanz.I think for my part is all said it about, I'm done on this Glanz subject.

Please go ahead and as till today you can follow sharing your experiences. As Lewm could be that other people want to follow with your thread/interest about.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.

Dgob, are your G5 & G7 MMs? What cantilevers does each use? Do the bodies look like the Astatic MF series? Have you tried interchanging styli?

The Astatic 100/200/300 as well as the Glanz MFG series are all Moving Flux. Hence the MF model designation.

Allow me share a few things I do know about these carts. All of the MF series from both Astatic and Glanz were made in Japan by the Mitachi Corporation. I can also say for sure that the Astatic/Glanz MF generators are not all the same. Well on the outside they are but the MF200/300 put out 4.2mv. The MF100 and all of the MFG Glanz 31/51/61/71, series put out 3.5mv. Interestingly, the G7 is rated at 4.2mv on the Vinylengine database. I wonder if that is true?

The MFG51E Glanz is not a MF200 or even a MF300. The sound is quite different on each. They should because they have different output and have different styli. The cantilever on the MFG51E I have also has a much different aluminum cantilever than any other MF units. It uses a very large taper. Looks heavy to me. My MFG51E is on the bottom of the totem pole sonically of all the MF/MI carts I have heard. The MFG31E/L is much closer to the MF200. It uses the same color stylus holder as well as the same cantilever. All three have different styli. MF200 is a nude Shibata. The MFG31E has a nude elliptical and the MFG31L has a nude line contact. The MFG31E/L both sound close to the MF200. The MF300 is good but I would use it for target practice after hearing the MF200 or MFG31E/L.

Hi Raul,

If you want to look at the available Glanz literature (some of which you have cited), you will see that there is direct performance differences and that (according to the company's literature and the available performance data) the G7 is superior to their non-integrated MF-line: including the MF-71L or E. However, as you found, the latter are far more easy to obtain. Incidentally, this is the first time to my knowledge that you have shared the information that you have ever heard [let alone owned and then sold on to a member of your own family] any Glanz.

Despite what might appear otherwise, I do respect your opinion on many matters. However, ignorance cannot be a ground to accept your views here. It seems that personal experience cannot overcome your prejudices and that is your right.

Nevertheless, I cannot fathom why you would wish to go against just about every positive and educational comment you have ever made about learning and being open to actual experience when determining cartridges!? Indeed, the MM/MI thread is littered with your references to that effect and presents itself as an attempt to do precisely that with a form of cartridge that had suffered unjust 'prejudice' [here meaning, 'judgements made before or without adequate information/experience']. Maybe the difference here is that you tend to stand as arbiter of those favoured cartridges!? Other than that I could only fathom your response as being directed at me rather than the cartridges.

I hope that is not the case as it would be a pity to let anything so churlish get in the way of good musical experiences.

As always...

Hi Vetterone,

I would just like to say a huge thanks for bringing additional knowledge to bear on this thread. It is a little late here now but I will attempt to respond properly when I log back on in the morning.

Kind regards

As always...

Well this thread become 'something totaly different':
it is now about who knows better. Nobody invited Vetterone
to demonstrate his knowledge so he obviuously invited him self. To surpass him I decided to check the German forums but to my big suprise as well as disappointment the Germans know even less than we do. Glanz was established in the 80is and despite some 'pushing' by two German HI-FI Magazines never get off the ground.Besides the German snobs (all of them) preferred Shure. More in particular the Shure
V15V. What some of them could remember was that Mitachy in
Japan produced the carts (with the known nomenclature labyrinth) while only 51 and 30 models are mentioned. So 'Glanz' (shine) 'shined' for about 1 year only. I am interested in the 'twin' brother or sister of the MF 200 of whatever 'brand' and would love to inform Raul with something like this: ''I got my MF 200 for 30 Euro, how much deed you pay for Axel's upgrade of your MF300?''

Regards,