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Hartvig TT signature vs TW Black Knight


Hi Everyone ,

I'm still hunting for my next turntable and above 2 tables are my top 2 choices left. I have heard the Hartvig TT signature with full upgrade options with battery supply for motor and copper platter upgrade last night at my friend's listening room. The Hartvig TT sig was using Phantom Supreme II 12" arm with DV xv1t cartridge , Goldmund Amp , and Tidal Speakers.

I was impressed with the very fine presentation of the HARTVIG and the super quiet and very very black background due to battery supply for the motor.The timing is top notch with a bit of correct warmness and resolution that is jaw dropping. The music is really alive in the listening room with no harsh or trace of fatigue in all frequencies.

I have not heard the black knight and can not decide to Hartvig without hearing or received any thoughts or comments for serious consideration for the difference of these 2 tables.

Your comments are very highly appreciated.
dreamauduio
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syntax
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there was a very interesting thread about TW products and their owners here in Agon some moths ago ago. An owner called DEV has wide experience with these products and writes about it.

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1365275848&openusid&zzDev&4&5#Dev
pcosta
241 posts
 
Dreamaudio

The Black Night has a battery power supply as standard with that table. It can be a option on the other TW tables if you order it that way.
crossfire
13 posts
 
Dreamauduio, TW Anniversary has also battery-buffered power supply (kind of Black Night has).

The main difference to Hartwig - as I've already mentioned - is the more massive platter of copper, less prone to stylus drag. Because of that my choise was Anniversary but in the beginning I was also looking towards AC with 3-in-1 motors.

Got no idea how to compare 2 turtables in different systems though. Even the same Brinkmann Balance at the nearest dealer sounded very different 'cause of settings / carts.
audiooracle
387 posts
 

I would also add to your super table list the Kronos.

The Kronos is a fantastic sounding table with a remarkable amount of novel technology. The Kronos uses a second lower deck with a counter rotating platter designed to cancel any vibrations induced by the primary drive system.

The Kronos was just written about by Harry Peasron who stated that the Kronos has elevated their reference system's level of playback quality over the $150,000.00 Clear Audio Table, and the Kronos costs $32,000.00 which is considerable less expensive than the Raven, the Kronos is compact and not super heavy so it fits on normal racks.
lewm
13,012 posts
 
Dream, At this level of cost, fussiness, and audiophilia, the mere fact that the battery may last only 3 years should be the least of your concerns. How much could it cost to replace the battery, as against the cost of this or the other turntable, not to mention the cost of the tonearm and cartridge that go with either? IMO, a really well designed power supply that produces the DC voltage necessary to run the motor, which is presumably a DC type, gives away nothing to a battery source, in terms of "black background". Three motors in concert are going to put more "noise" into the platter than any good PS would. Of course, the operative word is "good".
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