Have we lost civility and respect on Audio forums?


I think we have.  I have seen many discussion on audio forums and how nasty they can become when you have people disagreeing. Seems like there are a lot more know it alls now. I been in 20 years and I can still learn.  But I also know I know quite a bit. Like cables can enhance the sound and higher end well designed gear can truly be ear candy special.  Is this just on audio forums or the internet period. 

calvinj

“Dude, I came from a different engineering discipline (nothing to do with audio) where folks could die if we make a coupla innocent li’l mistakes. Hence, extreme levels of rigor was required and we couldn’t afford to do any kind of fake parade like you.”

 

wow you are so cool. I am in awe…

”In fact, i was hinting on some phenomena we’ve studied in another discipline for other applications (nothing do do with audio), which clearly should have some implication for audio. Some apparently celebrated speaker designers i’ve spoken to had never heard of it (got real glazy eyed when i brought it up).”

what you misidentified as a Doppler effect is wave interference. It’s about as basic as it gets. If there really are speaker designers that are unaware of it stay the hell away from their products. It’s pretty basic stuff in speaker design. It doesn’t just happen with sound in the ultrasonic range. Nor does it just happen with tones that are close in frequency. It’s an issue with multi-driver integration. The overlapping wave forms can do the same thing. It’s also something we live with, well most audiophiles live with because of the interaction between two speakers. It’s called comb filtering. Again this is audio 101. Jeez it used to be how people tuned guitars.

“I am guessing internet warrior Scott had never heard of it either. But, here he is, pretending to be the instantaneous expert.”

and you would be guessing wrong. I never claimed to be any kind of expert either. But if knowing about wave interactions where you set the bar…

I understood by your own post claims that you are an expert in cable transparency and an advocate of blind tests as the main solution to all subjectivist audiophiles superstitions ... No ?

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I never claimed to be any kind of expert either.

“Dude, I came from a different engineering discipline (nothing to do with audio) where folks could die if we make a coupla innocent li’l mistakes. Hence, extreme levels of rigor was required and we couldn’t afford to do any kind of fake parade like you.”

 

wow you are so cool. I am in awe…

”In fact, i was hinting on some phenomena we’ve studied in another discipline for other applications (nothing do do with audio), which clearly should have some implication for audio. Some apparently celebrated speaker designers i’ve spoken to had never heard of it (got real glazy eyed when i brought it up).”

what you misidentified as a Doppler effect is wave interference. It’s about as basic as it gets. If there really are speaker designers that are unaware of it stay the hell away from their products. It’s pretty basic stuff in speaker design. It doesn’t just happen with sound in the ultrasonic range. Nor does it just happen with tones that are close in frequency. It’s an issue with multi-driver integration. The overlapping wave forms can do the same thing. It’s also something we live with, well most audiophiles live with because of the interaction between two speakers. It’s called comb filtering. Again this is audio 101. Jeez it used to be how people tuned guitars.

“I am guessing internet warrior Scott had never heard of it either. But, here he is, pretending to be the instantaneous expert.”

and you would be guessing wrong. I never claimed to be any kind of expert either. But if knowing about wave interactions where you set the bar…

Ah yes, indeed....Scott’s got Chat GPT and some AI support these days at his fingertips...He will do a ctrl C, ctrl V, paste some crap and there he will be on a forum, looking like an instantaneous genius for the poor old Audiogon crowd.


So, how do we catch Scott’s fake parade boys?

Hmmm, aha....i suppose we could ask him to develop a concurrent run CFD model feeding its output into a FEM tool for modeling some events in an acoustic chamber, for instance. We would like to study the damage susceptibility of some electronic components from vibration input derived from an acoustic envelope, typical of launch environments (in such a test chamber)..... Now, some masochistic aerospace PhD will cry all day, sweat blood for a year and come up with something. But, now... Scott’s bluff would get caught. Chat GPT would bail on Scott real quick there boys. 😁 bwaaahahahaha

“I understood by your own post claims that you are an expert in cable transparency”

That is *your* misunderstanding. It does not take any kind of expertise to understand cable transparency.

”and an advocate of blind tests as the main solution to all subjectivist audiophiles superstitions ... No ?”

 

I am an advocate of blind protocols in any testing for differences or preferences. Has nothing to do with subjectivism vs objectivism. Terms which are mostly misused to identify with audiophiles that accept science in audio vs those who reject it. But even more so than that I am an advocate of time synchronized quick switching comparisons. Both are vital for getting reliable results. How other audiophiles choose to do their comparisons is on them. 

“Ah yes, indeed....Scott’s got Chat GPT and some AI support these days at his fingertips...”

Are you really so bedazzled by a very basic understanding of wave interaction that you would think it is so unreachable that my comments which were right off the top of my head would require Chat GPT or some AI to access? Ok….. that really is a low bar. That’s hilarious.