Have you moved away from full range to standmount speakers + subs?
I want to know if you have been on a journey moving from a large full range speaker to a smaller one paired wit subs, maybe even four subs.
Maybe you moved away from the big speakers because you had too much bass or you got a better soundstage from the smaller speakers. Let me know what motivated you and if you think it’s better now.
My motivation for wanting to try smaller speakers.
I have the Tekton DI and until a month ago I was using a LM845P SET amp to drive them.
It only sounded good on simple jazz and vocals but on complex music everything was falling apart.
I am not playing loud but I think it was the low 2 ohm load in the midrange that made the LM break down.
I bought a used PS Audio BHK250 and pre and it was like getting new speakers. Never ever had it occurred to me that speaker and amp matching could have such a profound effect.
So I am enjoying my speakers now and listen to music I have avoided like the plague and enjoying it (:
But all of this got me thinking, what if I paired my LM845P with an easy to drive speaker and paired it with some subs?
Then the LM845 could do what it's best at, playing glorious midrange and the subs could play the bass.
So that's my motivation for trying smaller speakers.
I am also hoping that maybe I could get better and more even bass with 2 or 4 subs. Maybe a better soundstage because the small speakers have a very small baffle.
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QUESTION: I have the Tekton Pendragons and love them....Why does Tekton push the 4 ohm option when ordering.. I would not buy them in 4 ohm...Mine are 8 ohm for easier amp matching...Is 4 ohm cheaper than 8 ohm to produce. Eric also make them in 2 ohm...Whats up with that.... Eric Alexander explains 4 ohm vs 8 ohm speaker decision. (15 second web search.) |
Of course there may be an explanation of why standmounts have a better soundstage than floor mounts, one is dollars, the other is how they are used. Invariably we listen to speakers at a price point, thus standmounts at x$ will probably sound better, across the board, if you discount bass response, than floor mounts at the same price. Better soundstage, imaging, mid and high frequencies etc. That is to be expected. However if you try the same brand speaker with the same drivers in bookshelf up to floor standers then you usually hear the taller boys are better. Many 2 way speakers employ the same drivers in several models. In my system I use small narrow floor standers and 2 subwoofers, this gives you 4 sources of bass to better balance bass in your room. I also listen very close at 2m with speakers close together, less than 2m. So a lot depends upon your room, small speakers placed in small rooms display good response just because you are closer to them. |
I agree with the inmates, bigger speakers have the potential to give a much more realistic sound stage than smaller speakers, which create the "porcelain muppet show". (Sorry, I did not coin that term but it's just so accurate!) The misnomer comes from the fact that at a budget price point it's easier to make a small speaker image sharper / crisper, but in general terms, it's quite misleading. I think the main reasons are:1. much lower cost2. much better WAF 3. amplifiers have more and more power nowdays, so slap in high excursion drivers and advertise as same spl capacity. (With greater excursion comes greater distortion - if you see the cone move it's not high fidelity anymore... sure, it can be made to sound good, but slammer cone movement will sound better give same attention to design details...) Some useful info on speakers size / imaging correlation:Small speakers do a fine job of imaging small, intimate, simple events.Really large scale performances need big cabinets. |
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