Here is an interesting artist that's new to me, and I wanted to share his music.
For the OP: Not so sure about the player personnel, but you can always stare at her picture on the cover. http://www.classical-music.com/monthly-choice/glorious-tribute-jazz-life-well-lived Cheers |
I'm sure everyone has seen this, but if not, look up Ken Burns Jazz on Amazon prime. They spend a lot of time in NOLA, since it's the birthplace and all. Great history lesson on jazz, most of it from early on. https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/jazz/episode-guide |
Enjoyed the Papa Mali and Redbone chant. Got to be in the mood for it though. If you like the Neville Brothers you'll probably like the Subdudes. Bought the CD for their name and really enjoyed the music. https://youtu.be/alcK9ZgykLs https://youtu.be/jdXC2JoEmn8 |
"Pops" is still number 1 on official lists, but those who place him number 1 on the street have died out. If he had played hard-bop he would be number 1 on the street now. Another kind of New Orleans music I like is "Voodoo music". In the South, I believe they call it "Hoo-Doo". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZePgj6rLV5k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KIscg0L7PA&list=PL16276A94A9205B1E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb8DlC3utYE |
I wonder if "the street" ever voted this guy best trumpet player. I think not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHAfhPrrKHA Cheers |
I wonder what the critics at the barber shop would say about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKqjPeKAh2Y Love it!!! Cheers |
If you can't win the argument, change the subject; that sounds like politics 101 to me. On to more good trumpet player from New Orleans. (Between me and you, I was in basic training with this guy named Petrie from Nawlins, that's the way he pronounced it, and he was born in New Orleans, had that accent that let you know it) Maybe things done changed since that time. Nicholas Payton was born 1973 in New Orleans, and he's a top rated trumpet player; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWXELfT-pMk |
Wynton is more than a trumpet player. His trumpet playing is about as important to Jazz, as Ellington's piano playing, or Mingus' bass playing. If that's how you see him, you have missed it. He is the face of Jazz in the world. He knows it's history, he speaks with authority, and he even looks and dresses the part. He is keeping the flame alive. What he does at Lincoln Center and with the Jazz orchestra cannot be over stated. As far as the guys on the street or in the barber shop, their opinions do not enter into it. Lee, Brown etc.... were great players, period. Great players are relatively common. Leaders are not so common. Some had Leadership potential, but declined. Miles, Bird and Trane come to mind Wynton is The LEADER in the world of Jazz. He still sets the standard, in spite of being under almost constant attack by noise-makers and their shills. He can only be critiqued in relation to the Giants of the art form. Not just mere players. Hell, even the incomparable Rok2id could play trumpet. :) Cheers |
Who is the best "hard-bop" jazz musician is not determined by some authority figure, but by a consensus of jazz musicians and jazz aficionados on the street; primarily in big cities. You can feel free to disagree with that consensus. Clifford Brown was considered the best until his death. He was killed on June 26, 1956; I was living on the South Side of Chicago with my older cousin who had only recently introduced me to Clifford Brown. The remarkable thing about being the best, is that even after death, a musician can still be considered the best. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt_fmhtePoc Not until Lee Morgan was any musician unanimously considered the best. He died February 19, 1972 at age 33. As I stated, a musician can still be considered the best even after his death. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHN6-yWFKPc For a short while, before Wynton Marsalis left Art Blakey, he was considered the best. That's because as a trumpet player, he was comparable to both those musicians. It was not until he became his own man, making his own albums which did not live up to what was expected, and were not in the same league as the music of Clifford Brown or Lee Morgan that he was no longer considered the best. However, since he also played classical music, I think he was still considered the best by the establishment; hence, Lincoln Center. Of course, the assessment I made can be challenged. |
Wynton is a highly educated musician, that made him perfect for Lincoln Center. He started off in the big league of jazz musicians, not just any musicians, but the big league of jazz musicians, and he blew like big league musicians. After he left Blakey, there were extremely high expectations; it was expected that he would compare to musicians like "Lee Morgan", Donald Byrd, and Freddie Hubbard, but his albums didn't rise to the occasion. The problem was that more was expected than he could deliver. Now if you read the newspaper, he always got good press, but if you talked to aficionados, and the top jazz musicians, he wasn't in the "creative" running with the likes of Lee Morgan and Donald Byrd. Fortunately for Wynton, since he could also play Classical, that really put him in good with the establishment; one that really never understood hardbop or modern jazz noway. The bottom line is that more "creativity" was expected of Wynton than he was able to deliver. When you compare Wynton to Lee Morgan or Donald Byrd, you'll see where many other top jazz musicians are coming from. The establishment said it was jealously, but they're the last people to ask any questions about hardbop or modern jazz. There was no jealously, just statements of fact. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr8MXT5f7gw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jpFtZ9KmvI |
Wynton started out with Blakey's Messengers, and everybody said he was arguably the worlds best trumpet player. That could still be true because he also plays classical music. While he might be the best jazz trumpet player, that did not include being the best jazz musician. After Wynton left Blakey, and was on his own, the shortcomings in his jazz composing talents became apparent. But he also plays classical, and that bumped his stature up with the establishment. https://wyntonmarsalis.org/videos/view/ms.-b.c.-art-blakey-and-the-jazz-messengers-live-at-seventh-a... There, Wynton is playing the hippest of the hip jazz, and he's blowing it out of the park. Criticism of Wynton from Aficionados and other jazz musicians did not come along until after he left Blakey. That's when we discovered he wasn't as good at making his own music as we thought he would be. That's it in a nutshell. |
NOLA music is all over the map; for me personally, we're back where we started; Jon Batiste plays what's most appealing to my taste in music which also incorporates New Orleans piano. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCC1EEmJlo4 No matter how good Wynton Marsalis can blow the trumpet, he's composed very little that appeals to my taste. While he can play everybody else's music, where's his? What can you present that might cause me to reconsider? When I hear this music I visualize New Orleans; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx23PzFb1RU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlifDYDUuHI |
I’m more partial to this guy. Love it when he sings the blues in french. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqQkhA6zOCc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtvUKUWp06g He music is closer to the delta. Cheers |
Can't talk about New Orleans and not mention this great lady, and New Orleans native. Nothing French or Spanish here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMSWJxNlaww https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06gAdro-62E The last recording I purchased by the Duke. The Duke was good at painting portraits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGZmE0dtb3k Cheers |
What intrigues me is New Orleans Cajun or French, I'm trying to understand it before I go there. http://www.storyvilledistrictnola.com/glossary.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO4zcAH1-wo |
Rok, it's strictly a "New Orleans thing", and you have to be from there to understand it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKmfeCO6hBI |
Reminds me: This LP and this song was the first music I fell in love with. I think my brother got it from some record club back in the day. Still have it on LP and CD. For some reason the CD’s sound sucks. Some of the most beautiful music ever made. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TWcRjmgkjU&list=OLAK5uy_mlS0HzaODN49-vBSazgG3fMc1N0M3ARso&index=1 Thanks for the memories. Cheers |
Born in San Antonio, Texas, from the late 1920s, Glenn played with various jazz bands in the Dallas and San Antonio areas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBoM6O7Z3M4 |
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That fact will never let me rest,***** Rest easy. There is nothing you could have done. Hopefully they have learned their lesson, but I doubt it. They were always doomed, just a matter or when and what hurricane showed up. The time for action is BEFORE the hurricane arrives. All levels of government in Louisiana failed their citizens. The people don't expect much from their elected officials, and they are seldom disappointed. Of course the people themselves are not exactly blameless. Anything at Scott AFB was also in Louisiana. Cheers |
I own very few soundtracks, not my thing. Except for THIS one! Just a great record, from start to finish. Not to mention an outstanding primer on music from the Big Easy! https://youtu.be/Gg3EhSQbNJg |
The most musical television I've ever experienced, I learned about so many new artists during its run! HBO's Treme! https://youtu.be/txJiJ65rhYI |
Many of the people displaced by the Katrina "Aftermath" never returned to NOLA. A hurricane is one thing, but this disaster occurred "after" the hurricane. That was mentioned by some of the current residents. That fact will never let me rest, I was a medic and served in the unit at Scott that trained to respond to any kind of a disaster. We had anything and everything; hospital, Doctors, nurses, medics, plus C-5A's, but my unit was never called. Sorry to bring it up. |
Music from the Texas side. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk59VUqZamg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQBj2cO8NGA Must have recording. Cheers |
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I love that one. I also love the sound Clarence Gatemouth Brown coaxes from his violin on Song for Renee - https://youtu.be/BaF28f4mj_M Any now for something completely different - https://youtu.be/qE4Z-tq-45Q |
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They have their own food and their own style of music***** I think that's the answer. O-10 alluded to that earlier, folks being comfortable in their surroundings. Wynton went up north, and in spite of his brilliance, he has been under attack by noise-makers ever since he got there. One of my favorites from Louisiana Scrapbook: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lza3seSrkXg I hope I didn't post this earlier. Cheers |
I second rok's recommendation of Louisiana Scrapbook. This was probably my first intro to Louisiana music. I traveled to Baton Rouge for work several times between 1987-89 and fell in love with the music and food. Here are a couple of gems, the second being from the Louisiana Scrapbook CD. Irma Thomas - Loving Arms - Here's a great intro to her music. Dirty Dozen Brass Band - Mardi Gras in New Orleans I'll post some more when I get a chance. Regarding the question of why musicians tend to stay around New Orleans more than other places, just a guess, but there seems to be a very strong sense of community in NOLA. They have their own food and their own style of music (several of each actually). Very few places can boast both. I think this enhances the sense of community. |
I bought that album in 1960 and never quit playing it; it's even on my play-list right now. When I was about 4 or 5, pre-school, there was an alley behind the house where we lived, and a man came down that alley pulling a cart on big wagon wheels that creaked along as he went. I can picture that man pulling his cart every time I hear that song; plus the love of my life had just gotten married to someone else, that also caused me to play it a lot. Flo me la is another one I like; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeMfDflHM1E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=139fXzrRjyc |
A few years back I went to the Louisiana Hot Sauce festival and one of the non-hot sauce vendors was selling a Louisiana Music Map poster. The map shows 1600 Louisiana musicians with their name located on their birthplace. It's very cool. I picked a couple (one as gift). It's all genres, not just jazz, but quite complete and well researched. There is also a Facebook page that has little nuggets about each of the musicians. Just search for "Louisiana Music Map" in the Facebook app, or if you must use a browser, here is the browser version. |
BTW, there is nothing in the subject of this thread that says New Orleans, Nawlins or even New Or Leans. Anyway, there are probably more great musicians FROM New Orleans than there are currently IN New Orleans. Since you are an aficionado at heart, all good Jazz, and anything on Jazz' family tree, should be welcomed Cheers |
