I do not post much here, because of all of the "baby talk" that goes around. A side note : I know a guy who owns a very sophisticated sports car, and tweaks it till no end. I would ride in it, after something else he has done, and, he would ask me if I feel the difference in the ride ? ( I am the passenger ). The truth is, NO. He would visit me and, I would ask him if he hears the difference in my system, since the last time he was here, and he would say NO. Different hobbies, different senses, different interests. The point I am trying to make, without using sophisticated words, or scientific babble, is quite simple. Listening to music is a part of all of our lives. My sister, who enjoys listening to music as much as I do, listens to a $500. Bose radio, and, " she enjoys it, immensely ". I envy her. Being an audiophile ( spending money on equipment, and tweaking ), brings us closer to "the real thing", which, shows individuality amongst us, but shares our interests, senses, and of course, hobby. Hearing people bicker about right or wrong ? Enough of the BS already. This is a fun hobby, for me, anyway. I want a sound. Each of you want a sound. It IS ALL audible. Lets just enjoy, share, and learn. To all of you who bash "snake oil", well, good for you. The non like of horn based systems ( or box, or panel), well, good for you. Those who prefer tubes vs. ss, or the reverse, good for you. I would rather listen to music, through my system, than read these forums, particularly, the bantering. Just saying. I mean no harm to anyone. Just everyone, grow up. MrD