How much does volume matter when breaking in amps and cables?


I'm not here to debate break-in. I generally leave new amps, components, and new cables playing low volume for a for long periods to start the break in process. Just curious how much does volume play a role in breaking in such. I get that speakers probably need pretty good amounts to push drivers, but what about other components?


aberyclark

Who needs David Hafler, Peter Walker, Sid Smith, Bill Johnson, Frank Van Alstine, Ralph Karsten, Tim deParavicini, Nelson Pass, Roger Modjeski, and all the other Hi-Fi electronic designers? Uh, anyone who wants and/or needs electronics for the reproduction of music. You know, those who want a real Hi-Fi. If designing Hi-Fi electronics were left to audiophiles, almost all of us would be out-of-luck. For any audiophile who wants to build his own amp, Modjeski teaches a class in Berkeley, wherein he helps you realize your design idea. You are free to use any parts or fuses you like. ;-)

The above names don’t need to be dropped, the sound quality of their designs speak for their abilities. I’ve never heard one of them claim to work at any organization they actually didn’t (talk about name dropping and appeal-to-authority!), or to shamelessly boast about their products. They don’t need to, the sonic benefits of them are audible for all to hear. All that actually bother to audition them, of course. Some don’t feel a need to listen to those not containing "magic" parts. Now THAT’S a skeptic. ;-)

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Better add burn-in to the list of things amp designers didn’t get the memo about. Along with fuses, fuse and wire direction, vibration isolation, power cords, power cord directionality. Yes, I know what you’re thinking, their designs are so good they’re immune to things like that. 😀
kosst_amojan"Transistors simply don't burn in. Nobody who designs solid state amps says they do"

You should check with Heinrich Stolzfausten, who knows a thing or two about transistors and the proper design of circuits used in their applications.
Roger, I’m honestly curios, don’t you think there’s been improvements in the way electrical components are made since the 50’s? People’s hearing could have been better but that’s also open to debate at another time.
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@kalali Roger, I’m honestly curios, don’t you think there’s been improvements in the way electrical components are made since the 50’s? People’s hearing could have been better but that’s also open to debate at another time.

A Marantz Model 8B of the 1960s is as good as anything I can do today other than make the power supply caps bigger. Now big uFarads are cheap but were not then. Otherwise what Sid Smith did was exemplary. I had the honor of lunch and did a yet unpublished interview with him and separately one with Saul. The designs are entirely Sid's work. I copied his tertiary feedback winding for my model 9 (before the interview, just from looking at the schematic and wondering).  My Model 9 is starting to rise in value on the used market, so a new generation is catching on. 

The 8B is one of my benchmarks. BTW, the loved my many Citation power amps of the same period are not. 

I read Stereophile religiously. Go right to the measuremets, then the review. Im not impressed with what ARC, CJ, Cary etc are doing. They are making models with high distortion, poor damping. Just look at Atkinson's measurements and comments. Its a wonder they send them in knowing they will be inspected under JA's test routine.

As to resistors and capacitors. The expensive hype ones do not interest me. I dont need Nude Vishay resistors where the leads break off if you look at them. I dont need oil coupling caps that take on moisture and pass DC. I replace them with good Mylar or PPN caps that last forever.

Not sure what you mean about people's hearing?
kosst_amogan

@geoffkait

They got the memo about that snake oil silliness. It’s pinned to the break room bulletin board for everyone to laugh at next to the a print out of your website.

Nobody who designs any electronic device for any use or purpose considers the snake oil you mentioned because it makes no difference.

>>>>I certainly have no explanation for such back-sliding retro behavior on your parts. Oh, well, live and let die.