I Am Tired of Bogus Measurements
My expensive shoes have measurements but it doesn’t matter, all I want to know is will they fit. My expensive new suit has measurements but it doesn’t matter, all I want to know is will my expensive new shoes match.
The people being misled by measruements aren’t being led my manufacturers, they are being misled by reviewers. Idiotic rankings of digital gear based on measurements outside the range of human hearing. Cancelling entire brands who put out features customers actually want as they sell to humans, not bats. The worst of these websites will rant about their own superior $$$ equipment but mot even one person will ever use speakers in a klippel matchine, they actually put them in a room! The horror. The cancelling of brands, the talking down to the customers, is bogus.
You need to measure what matters! Are the customers actually happy? Is the warranty honored? Most importantly is their an in home audition period?
I don’t need someone to tell me if I could or should like a product. My room is not a test bench, or a klippel machine. Who cares what the component measures by itself because unless its a clock radio I’ll never use it by itself, I have to interconnect it in a "system" with "high quality" cables, (as in all cables are not the same).
If you want to measure something measure how your personal system of curated components interact with your room. That’s it. The rest of the stuff you could forget because these days if a brand overpromises and under delivers they will be following a formula for losing money, an no company likes that.
Hold on. What are BOGUS measurements? What do you mean by the term BOGUS? Dictionary definition is NOT GENUINE, COUNTERFEIT, SPURIOUS. Is that what you intend? Obviously no-one wants to be supplied with measurements that are FALSE. But you mean measurements that in your opinion are not useful. That is an entirely different kettle of fish. FALSE means objectively false. Stuff you don't find useful is just your opinion. |
@OP Sorry I'm not sure what 'cancelling' of brands is. Is it a Generation Z term for disagreeing or ignoring? Talking down to customers is not bogus, i.e. false. It is just rude and rather negative for sales penetration. I agree measurements are not predictive of sound QUALITY overall. But they can often be accurate predictors of aspects of sound CHARACTER, eg a substantial suck-out or a kink in the frequency trace of a speaker. It is very rare that snake oil type products display any measurement changes in use. If they did, their proponents would not have to say the difference needs to be heard in terrms of sound quality (a generalised non-scientific term even though it needs to be apprehended). |
@yoyoyaya Yes, Kota misuses the term BOGUS, despite my efforts to explain. And now he has suggested I elided offensive and bogus, which I didn't. I can tell you all one thing: there was never a fraction of the offensive and bogus stuff before they invented the internet. We are fast approaching the stage where it does more damage than good. There never was such a leveller down. The few decent people that are left will soon be running a mile. Ho hum. |
As my opinion has been sought, I have to say I have not been impressed with the way this thread has been going for the last page and a bit. No substantive point has been made by either side for a good while. This may be because OP is not assigning BOGUS its correct meaning. But whatever, if he is not taken in by some published measurements that's great, but he doesn't have to tell us for three pages, we are not that interested in his point of view anyway. Anyway, most of us can easily see when a measurement is not useful. I think though OP may have broken one record here, that is to make the largest proportion of posts on a thread that he started. This tends to suggest he is over-opinionated. More fool us for responding to what has now become a tirade, and a dull one at that. |
