I Am Tired of Bogus Measurements


My expensive shoes have measurements but it doesn’t matter, all I want to know is will they fit. My expensive new suit has measurements but it doesn’t matter, all I want to know is will my expensive new shoes match.

The people being misled by measruements aren’t being led my manufacturers, they are being misled by reviewers. Idiotic rankings of digital gear based on measurements outside the range of human hearing. Cancelling entire brands who put out features customers actually want as they sell to humans, not bats. The worst of these websites will rant about their own superior $$$ equipment but mot even one person will ever use speakers in a klippel matchine, they actually put them in a room! The horror. The cancelling of brands, the talking down to the customers, is bogus.

You need to measure what matters! Are the customers actually happy? Is the warranty honored? Most importantly is their an in home audition period?
I don’t need someone to tell me if I could or should like a product. My room is not a test bench, or a klippel machine. Who cares what the component measures by itself because unless its a clock radio I’ll never use it by itself, I have to interconnect it in a "system" with "high quality" cables, (as in all cables are not the same).

If you want to measure something measure how your personal system of curated components interact with your room. That’s it. The rest of the stuff you could forget because these days if a brand overpromises and under delivers they will be following a formula for losing money, an no company likes that.

kota1

That paper is brutal.

All papers are brutal, I cited that one as an example. I did an in home audition using their method, it worked! Go figure.

Not all papers are brutal. Some are good, some are average, some are questionable, and some are really brutal. Both gaming the results with a really awful, but hidden source device, and a ton of graphs without scales, no pictures of the setup, limited details on the processing other than trust us, etc.  It is particularly bad.

@thespeakerdude

You argue too much. If you want to at least appear credible post your system and in room FR measurements.

 

@kota1 "I Am Tired of Bogus Measurements"

-how can be audio devices designed, improved, manufactured, and serviced/fixed  at the end without measurements? 

@westcoastaudiophile

how can be audio devices designed, improved, manufactured, and serviced/fixed at the end without measurements?

Bogus is when someone claims the sound quality of an audio device can be reliably predicted by measurements. When that happens it becomes a race to the bottom of who can replicate a measurement at the lowest possible price and claim superiority=bogus claims. The bogus reviewers and websites are promoting measurement hysteria as a form of click bait.

Is their a universal measurement for sound quality?