LCR phono stages we know about


Lately, I have become enthralled with LCR phono stages, based on some personal listening experiences and on the fact that many designers I respect are involved in LCR phono design. However, I don't really feel that I have a complete picture re what's out there in terms of commercial products. If you own or have heard an LCR phono stage and have an opinion, please name the product and feel free to render an opinion of it, compared to other phono stages of any type with which you are familiar. Thanks.
lewm
John, I think there is a misunderstanding between us that comes from trying to describe a circuit in words rather than by schematic. Can you reference a schematic that illustrates your point? For my part, I can only say that I've taken a particular interest in balanced differential input stages, and I have never ever seen a schematic wherein the CCS ideally used between ground and the cathodes of the two tube sections that constitute the balanced input is bypassed by a capacitor. Plus, my understanding of theory tells me that it's not necessary, would even be detrimental. However, I stand ready to be educated; if you can point to a schematic it would help.
Lewm, the bypass cap is only necessary for the single ended version. The differential LTP version of course does not need a bypass for the cathode CCS as the signal passes from cathode to cathode directly. I have a complete schematic for the beta version of the K&K Audio Sonus Veritas Venice which used this circuit for its input stage (BTW the Venice is fully differential). I only have a "paper" version of this schematic and don't have a scanner unfortunately. Maybe if you talk to Kevin about this he will be willing to email you the schematic.

The schematic tends to look pretty busy due to all the current sources and shunt regulators. One plus sonically is the only caps affecting the signal are the two RIAA caps that are shunt connected across the two balanced signal paths. No caps in series with the signal path. No bypass caps either of course and the PS is well isolated from the signal (CCS "tail" impedance between cathodes and ground, separate CCS and shunt reg. between B+ and PS for each gain stage). Also, the only series resistance in the signal path are the 10 Ohm grid stoppers.

One way of thinking about this input stage arrangement is to consider it a parallel feed design without a parafeed cap (we aren't trying to block DC in the shunt resistors). The shunt connected RIAA resistors are now the tubes'e plate load with bias supplied by the plate CCSs. One issue that Kevin had when he went to this arrangement is that the tubes' capacitance now enters more into the RIAA calculation. This required some rejiggering of the RIAA capacitor to obtain an accurate response.
Lewm,

Well, my Cole is available for sale. It's currently a 230v unit but I think it can be converted (need to rewire the input transformer). Will let it go for $500 excluding shipping and paypal charges.
I bought my Wavac used. That's the only way I can afford it but it has been bringing great joy to my vinyl system ever since it arrived.
Ddrive, Are you in the UK? Please send me a PM via the Audiogon auspices. I might be interested, obviously. Thx.
Bumping old thread... The Micromega Mygroov MM/MC phono for $159 seems to be LCR based. And in MC mode, it sounds sensational.