Leave tubes in phono section if not using it?


Hi,

I just bought a mid 1980's Moscode Minuet preamp (not Minuet in A) on AudioGon. I haven't received it yet, but I think it uses 4 12AX7's (2 in phono section, 2 in line stage).

I don't plan on using the phono stage. I was thinking of just pulling the tubes in the phono section with the hopes of reducing noise/hum and saving myself two tubes. But, I know I could use shorting plugs on the phono imput jacks to possibly eliminate some noise that way.

My question: Is it possible that pulling the tubes can upset some critical design parameter and create a detrimental situation, or even do some damage?

I will not have a manual or schematic for this unit.

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Rich
richgib
Riley804, what Rich wants is someone with intimate knowledge of this pre-amp who can tell him whether or not operating on only 2 of 4 tubes will cause him any problems.

I don't have a clue with this pre-amp - for me it would be easier to stuff in $20 worth of cheap tubes (actually he could go even lower) in the phono stage and forego having to take the word of folks who would just be guessing or otherwise worrying about it.

But, he is seeking knowledge and that is a good thing isn't it?
If he is seeking knowledge he should just call George Kaye and get a direct answer.
I like the cheapo tube idea. I have a few stock tubes that arent worth the glass the're made of. Just buy some 5 buck Sinos and don't worry about unless a friend wants to try a TT on your pre.
I Don't know about Moscode, but I asked Cary about this on my SLP 90 preamp. The answer was, Yes, leave the tubes in place. Replace them with something less precious if they are special. Since your pre is older these days, I wouldn't take any chances.
Some preamps not only want phono tubes left in, but if the tubes are not quiet they can cause issues with the power supply and can actually cause problems for your high level/line stage as well. Best bet is to call George Kaye and ask him. Then you will know for sure.