'Life Above 20kh' Research Paper, Harmonics (Overtones)


I happened across this study about sound frequencies beyond 20kh. Harmonics (I prefer the term Overtones)

http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~boyk/spectra/spectra.htm

Aside from the study’s purpose, skimming the text is fascinating, sends my/your inquisitive mind in many directions.

Think about your listening room when reading his extremely detailed measurements to ascertain/eliminate any external contributions to his measurements.

Check out the amount of sound energy beyond 20kh of various instruments, crash cymbals particularly revealing. Jangling keys also a surprise.

The comments about a Piano’s Altered Harmonics including the strings/sound board/floor, I found surprising. I’ve always known how difficult it is to record a piano, this must be part of the challenge.

Even though test subjects say they cannot hear the super tweeter, experimenters could measure that the super-frequencies were detected by ..... , awareness and the brain’s perception ability are different things
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Overtones. ’Analog Gets the Overtones Rght’.

I’ve often said, after a whole lotta years, the only way I can begin to explain why I prefer analog, is ’Analog Gets the Overtones Rght’.

Reel to Reel, my noisiest format, is my most preferred source. LP favored over CD. Tubes over SS. Myself, and ANY/EVERYBODY listening here to comparisons over the years has the same preferences.

More reason to get our ears professionally cleaned!!

Elliott




elliottbnewcombjr
Dear @elliottbnewcombjr : For many years gentlemans as Prof. Johnson designer and manufacturer of Spectral electronics and owner of RR LP label talks of the importance that electronics must has linear very wide frequency range over 1Mhz as his electronics and my phonolinepreamps.

For years too I posted the importance of those harmonics and from that comes by insistence that the main subject the main parameter in the room/system MUSIC reproduction belongs to the bass range quality level performance because its harmonics modulates all the frequency hearing/listening frequency range.

Your link is a great one but you said :

"" I can begin to explain why I prefer analog, is ’Analog Gets the Overtones Rght’.

Reel to Reel, my noisiest format, is my most preferred source. LP favored over CD. Tubes over SS. Myself, and ANY/EVERYBODY listening here to comparisons over the years has the same preferences. ""

First already was discussed in deep in some Agon threads that our ears has an ADC, so your hear digital not analog: period.

You have a misunderstood of what you read in that link because harmonics are developed in the same way in any reproduction media and your preference for tubes means and confirm your misunderstood because there are several tube electronics that just don’t have a linear/flat frequency not  to 150khz and beyond but not even at 100khz. 


" ANY/EVERYBODY listening here to comparisons over the years has the same preferences. "

Well if you think that then all as you are way wrong: no matters what. You need to read your link again and again.

Btw, thank’s for the link.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.


The late Allen Wright, who was a well known designer of superb preamplifiers and phono stages, wrote in his "Tube Preamp Cookbook" that he or a panel of listeners could hear changes he made to a circuit that affected response at 750kHz!  He also stressed the importance of wide bandwidth. His preamplifiers were typically hybrid designs, using  one transistor for gain in his phono stages.
raul

ok, we will remain happily wrong.

I agree, the volume level may not be flat, but I am thinking about the TIMING of the fundamentals and overtones of each and every instrument’s sound waves, to their individual fundamental, and all the surrounding notes; even overtones we are unaware of, being ’right’ or ’wrong’ to our brain’s perception. Capturing and re-generating fundamentals and overtones ’right’.

I’m no scientist, but I play Sgt. Peppers, CD, LP, R2R, and EVERYONE who hears them on my system pick LP over CD and R2R over LP. Next, I switch from McIntosh MC2250 SS to Tube Amp, EVERYONE picks tubes. Same thing with any content I have in all 3 formats. I can switch SS/Tubes without them knowing what’s what

It's not clarity, lack of noise, because LP is noisier than CD and Tape is noisier than LP.

It’s not ’warmth’, not ’happy distortion’, what is it? You have my best guess, imperceivably perceived timing.


Dear friends : For several years now I posted more than one time that human been can listen beyond 50khz and down beyond 20hz because we listen/hear through all our body: hair, bones, skin, etc, etc.

Even I posted that we have to have the experience to confirm it and for that we need to listen for at least one hour MUSIC tracks very well know for us seated in NAKED fashion ( only a boxer down there. ) at different controled SPL and inmediatly to that naked session listen same recordings with our normal clothes.
This experience is really a learning one and this link says that we really can listen with a more wide frequency range that we can imagine:

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e6ed/9ec45208be612a60411e3b527d65b22962d0.pdf

So, GO NAKED !!  . You have to try it.

R.