Limited soundstage between speakers


No matter what the source, the soundstage in my system remains within the width of the speakers. I read with envy of systems which extend the soundstage outside the speaker boundaries. Is this a problem with my speakers, amplification, room boundaries or something else?

What change should I make to improve the soundstage?

gyrodec/shelter 501/exposure 3010s2d/ spendorA6

 

rrm

Thanks for your approval or interest...

I am a retired old fool who take refuge in music after my acoustic journey ending, against a world becoming completely mad...

No common basis of discussion...

in sound/music the common basis is essentially acoustic and psycho-acoustic...Gear choices so important they are, are second to acoustic ... Guess why?

 

In geopolitic it is simple agreed facts are the common basis  not propaganda....

If we cannot look for a common basis of discussion grounded in simple facts in the world, not propaganda, there will be no peace; and if we cannot look for a common basis of dicsussion grounded in acoustic facts not gear obsession there will be no musical acoustic optimal experience ...

Different worlds, same madness... Propaganda or publicity, always lies....

+1 mahgister

 

 

 

There is no PERFECT REPRODUCTION from a recorded cd or vinyl, there is ALWAYS a  RELATIVE TRANSLATION from the recorded acoustical cues of the original lived event, but interpreted and selected by the trade-off calculus of the recording engineer INTO your speakers/room acoustic relation ..

A relative  translation never an identical reproduction is possible... 

Agreed. Cutting to the chase, I think any audiophile would know this.

 

 

The original poster is nowhere to be found,while others fight amongst themselves. We don't know much about his room.  So I will cast a wide net of ideas.  I messed around with my system for a couple years before I was satified with the sound.  Your speakers look nice and should image well.  Here are some factors that could cause your symptom:

Too close to side walls

Too close to back wall

Wired wrong

Excessive phase cancelling due to reflections, comb filtering

A sub can help focus the playback

Springs under speakers.  This helps but something else is wrong.

If you have a dedicated room, then this is easier.  Some of the setups mixed with furniture in living areas will sound just like your system does now.  My guess is room treatment but need more information. 

OP here,

Gosh, I never thought to provoke so many heated comments. Thanks to all who made positive comments and suggestions.
My living room is 14x19, speakers are on the short wall ,about 3 ft out from the wall and 3.5 ft from the side walls, very slightly toed in. I listen about 8 ft back. There are 3 windows with heavy curtains, Carpet over wood floor, no room treatments. Tonal response is good.

the speakers are in phase according to a test record. As to polarity I have no idea how to test individual components and doubt that it can be changed on any component.

Again thanks to those who gave advice.

 

rrm, Your room dimensions are close to identical to mine. Our set up is a bit different in that my speakers are 5 1/2’ from the back wall and I listen on axis about 9 ft back (about 4 1/2 ft from the wall behind the chair . I’ve minimized side wall bounce and have irregular diffusing stuff on wall behind speakers. If you can you might try moving your speakers a bit closer to the side walls and increasing your toe in to minimize first reflections off the side wall. Toe in slightly in front of your head could help depending on the design of your speakers. Something closer to an equilateral triangle. It could/should perhaps give you a soundstage that fills the wall behind your speakers (assuming that the information is in the recording). Good luck.