Lyra Delos vs EMT TSD 15


I heard the EMT at In Living Stereo in NYC. Very transparent. I've read good things about the Delos, and it's a bit cheaper than the EMT. Anyone have or have had both who can compare the two?
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Can I just say it's a privilege to have JCarr on this thread. I am saying my observations from having had in my system - both the Helikon and the Clavis both for about 3 years apiece. I've unfortunately not had any of the more recent cartridges - so obviously I may well be wrong. That said i find most companies - ie Koetsu, Naim, Lavardin, Krell, Linn, Rega - all have a certain house sound, and it was in pursuance of this I made my post. I will add that I liked the sound of the Lyra's I had otherwise I would not have bought them for so much! What i wanted to convey to the original poster was that he is comparing two very different cartridges IMHO (and experience) which is going to leave several potential conflicts - ie if you were to compare products occupying a similar space in the market place it is a fairer comparison. I hope I did not offence, because I was simply seeking to be erudite without having to elaborate like I have done here
Lohanimal, could you elaborate on: "he is comparing two very different cartridges IMHO (and experience) which is going to leave several potential conflicts - ie if you were to compare products occupying a similar space in the market place it is a fairer comparison"? How do the cartridges differ? The descriptors I've read of both cartridges, as far as what they excel at, seems similar. I'd like to know more.
I like the TSD 15 on the NOS EMT 948 in my room. but I'd say it's only 'pretty good', not outstanding. I have not directly compared to a Lyra Delos, but from my experience listening to the Lyra Delos I would prefer it to what I hear from the TSD 15. to be fair, the EMT tonearm on the EMT 948 is likely a limitation to both the TSD 15 and the EMT 948.

I'd love to install the Durand Kairos on the EMT 948 at some point to see just what that package is capable of.
The myth is that all EMT T(X)DS 15 are the same. This is not
true because the new suspension and stylus are designed
meanwhile. The stylus is designed for the records (vinyl)
not for the material for cutting the grooves. It is now
called 'fine line'. Gyger II (aka Van den Hul) is abandoned.
Reto Andreoli was the first to criticize Van den Hul stylus
shape as inadequate for the records but only few payd attention.
I own the new 'golden' XSD 15 which tracks much better
(70 microns with 2,5 g) and sounds much better then
LZI or Shiraz ( Roksan version of the 'old' EMT with Gyger II ).
EMT wants obviously to keep the old myth a life.
I'm also considering the Lyra Kleos. Curious to hear from those who have heard the Kleos, the Delos, and the EMT TSD 15.