Maggies a waste if only 3' from backwall?


All maggie owners, please chime in. I've been considering the maggie 3.6 or 20.1. My basement room is 15x20x7, thin carpet on slab floor, drywall over foundation. It is very unlikely I will be able to have them out farther than 3 feet from backwall, unless i had them on some kind of rolling/sliding platform. I have read repeatedly that maggies must be at least 4-5 feet from backwall. So, is 3 ft just not enough? Will the magic disappear and render them pedestrian?

While I'm at it, one more question: I understand there is a narrow sweetspot for maximum enjoyment, but how bad is out-of-sweetspot/off-axis listening? What aspect of SQ is actually lost? I ask this because I've read several posts where people thought they heard a real drummer or piano in next room only to find it was music played through a maggie (ie, "Best Speakers.." thread).

Thanks much for the replies. I really am considering joining the maggie family, but don't want to make a mistake based on room and one-person sweet spot.

Jeff
jeffkad
Thanks so much for the replies so far. It seems that some are finding success with 3', but others are suggesting less than max performance. Nice to know that James thinks the sweetspot is no smaller than a B&W, since I do have N803's right now, lol.

I am very surprised at the suggestions to drop down as low as the 1.7, as I would have thought that the maggies just get much better across-the-board farther up the ladder. Especially since, at least according to everything I've read, the 3.6 or 20.1 is not in any way a bass-heavy speaker that can overpower a room. I'm willing to pay over 10k for a speaker like the 20.1 and have read that it kills the 3.6 (which is wonderful in it's own right), yet some are recommending the 1.7 like it competes with 10k speakers (box spkrs included). I am really confused by that. I do love the maggie sound, but I can't see a 1.7 competing at 5x over it's head. Help me out here, what am I missing?

My other option for the open airy sound might be open baffle like a Legacy Whisper or a NOLA Ref3 or Micro, but the palpable presrence of that maggie sound is undeniable, dynamic shortcomings noted.

Keep those thoughts coming. Much appreciated.
Right from Magnepan "A large Magneplanar in a small room is mostly an aesthetic issue and a question of proper bass reproduction", "Buy as much Magneplanar resolution as your budget will allow. However, the objection from family members of a larger Magneplanar in a small room is one we can't help."

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I demoed the 20.1 in a room about the size of yours (14X20X9ish) and they did not seem too large for the room, tonal balance/sound-stage was just right. They were about 4.5 feet off the back wall, 6 feet apart and I sat about 8 feet back (Mcintosh MC1.2KW amps). It was not too much system for the room. I also heard the Klipsch P-38F in the same room (different amps) and they loaded the room with too much bass. So to me it seems that Magnepans in general do not need as large a volume of room as is commonly believed on this site. But they seem to need some space behind them in order to gain bass definition.

But again we all have different tastes but if it were my money I would start with the 3.6Rs and go from there.
Maybe a few more words will provide some clarification. Maggies are dipoles. It is my understanding that the back firing wave will cancel out the front firing wave on low frequencies if the speakers are set too close to the back wall. While the 20.1s are capable of going down to 25 hz, you won't hear the low frequencies if the back firing wave cancels the front firing wave. I can tell you that at 3 feet out, the 42Hz E on a contrabass is almost inaudible in my room. Moving the speakers out another 2 feet makes a huge improvement. Quality amplification is essential. I use Cary 500MBs with my maggies, and they are wonderful amps but their 1000W into 4 Ohms won't overcome the physics dictated by the set up. I love maggies, and have used them exclusively for the last 20 years. I have not auditioned the 20.1s or 3.6s in my room, so I can't tell you from experience what they would do. I'd buy some 3.6's tomorrow if I could audition them in my room first. But I won't spend that kind of money on an experiment when I'm so satisfied with my current 1.6s. It's your dime. If you are willing to run a 10K plus experiment, I'd suggest hiring a consultant prior to purchase with a follow up to get them set up optimally after they break in.
"I do love the maggie sound, but I can't see a 1.7 competing at 5x over it's head. Help me out here, what am I missing?"

What you are missing is that you don't have the space to set 3.6s/20.1s up. I highly suggest you raise this question at the Magnepan users group and get some feedback over there. Look into getting them gunned or take them active if you really want to spend the extra money but putting a 3.6/20.1 in your room is less than optimal.

Greetings Timaru
Just wondering with all of the Padding,drapes etc in your sound rooms pic how could the back wave of the Magnepan work their magic under those conditions anyhow? Did you read the manual on this?
Best Johnnyr