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Magico S5 review

I've been auditioning the Magico S5's on loan from my dealer Scott Walker Audio of Anaheim for several weeks now.
The S5's are an all aluminum cabinet, a trickle down version of the Q series. They are 90 DB, 22HZ-50KHZ, 190#,and sell for $28,600. After some considerable work by Scott he got the speakers locked in perfectly.

My current system consists of Focal Nova Utopia BE speakers
($45,000), An Ayon CD-5 cd player, An Ayon Triton 2 amp,Grand Prix Monaco racks,and a slew of Synergistic Research equipment: Tranquility bases,Migs, Hologram A,D, and AC Precision power cords, Element interconnects,an 11 piece Acoustic Art system, SR fuses and even the new Ayon BT KT-88 SX tubes made in the Czech Republic

I thought I had a pretty great system......Until the S5's came into the picture. The first thing you notice about these speakers is their sealed rather than ported bass. Oh my god! I am not a bass freak but the Magicos had incredible bass.....taut with a visceral punch to the stomach on the right tracks. And this with a tube amp.On certain bass heavy tracks it was like having two subwoofers in the room.

The tweeter was smooth and delicate and completely integrated with the midrange.....it was like one driver.

The midrange is where the Magico Magic comes in.....a strong center vocal image (I like female vocalists), not only more "there" than my Focals but violins had more sheen, cellos sound deeper and you could hear deeper into the subtleties and nuances of the human voice. The tonal characteristics were denser and more real.

The real surprise came when I put the Focals back in the system. I was disappointed. Very Disappointed. The Focals bass in comparison to the Magicos sounded flabby and weak,midrange presence was lessened along with the Magicos wonderful tone. It was easy to discern that the Magico S5's sounded more holographic, 3D, with a smoother yet more detailed mid and top end.

Things I particulary liked about the music reproduction of the S5's:

Dark Side of the Moon: Listen to the bells and the cash register on the song "Money" Stunning.

Warren Zevon, Life Will Kill You: Warren knew he was dying and wasn't in great shape vocally but when you hear the title track you can hear EVERY nuance in his voice....you can hear all his despair and humor.

Sarah McLachlan, Surfacing: I was amazed at how good this Cd sounded, absolutely gorgeous. I heard guitars, Synths, and faint almost out of hearing range background vocals by Sarah. I heard sounds on this Cd I have never heard before.

Melissa McClelland,Thumbelina's One Night Stand: A cd with country folk sensibilties but with a sort of Southern guitar crunch to it. Listening to this on the Magicos was like having Melissa in the room.....Holographic, real vocal tones, and absolutely haunting.

So after saying all this what's an audiophile to do?
My dealer Scott Walker is taking my Focals in on trade along with a check. I understand the S5's take two months to build and get here so Scott is loaning me his demo pair for the duration. That will certainly make waiting for the next two months a lot easier.

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melbguy1
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@Peterayer, the Pass xa.5 amps are very nice indeed. I could imagine the XA160.5 would have good synergy with your Mini 2's, and the XA200.5 even moreso given the Mini's 87db effiency. As for the S5's, Magico have been quoted as stating an 87db figure which agrees with HiFi News lab results which also showed a moderate 2.5ohm impedance dip, so 400 watts should be about right for the S5.

Btw, the best i've heard the Q1's sound was with a Vitus SIA-025, SCD-010 cdp & Siltech Royal Sig series cables. That combination was incredibly natural and pure. Just a match made in Heaven. And I wouldn't describe Vitus as a super fast amp by any means.
bifwynne
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I've got an eye (or perhaps better, an ear) on the Magico S5s. Just caught this bench test report, here:

www DOT soundstagenetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1043:nrc-measurements-magico-s5-loudspeakers&catid=77:loudspeaker-measurements&Itemid=153

Knowing what I know after many years of breaking my technical teeth, I am very impressed by these bench test reports. Especially the impedance and phase angle plots. The flat frequency response and ultra low distortion numbers are equally impressive.

I guess that leave me with the one unanswered question ... the most important question. How do they sound?

I intend to find out an will report back if I get a chance to audition them.

BIF
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Bruce (Bifwynne), re the impedance magnitude and phase angle plots for the S5, while the variation of impedance magnitude as a function of frequency is a good deal less than on many speakers, including your present ones, I would consider the S5's impedance characteristics to be quite demanding.

The impedance magnitude appears to be at or below 3 ohms from around 50 Hz to around 150 Hz, and also throughout the top octave. With phase angles that are significantly negative (capacitive) in much of those regions, including a particularly severe combination of low impedance and highly capacitive phase angles in the 50 to 75 Hz area, where a lot of energy is often required.

See also the post in this thread by Elberoth2 dated 11-29-12.

My guess is that your ARC REF 150 would be able to handle all of that with relative aplomb (using the 4 ohm tap), but I'm not sure that it or most other amps would fully sound their best in doing so.

Just my $0.02. Best,
-- Al
bifwynne
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Thanks for the tip Al. I read Elberoth's post -- an EPDR of 1 ohm in the low bass --uuhhm. Might as well just short my amp and save the cost of buying the S5s.

Interestingly, I recall seeing some posts that said that Alon Wolf voices his speaker on VAC gear. Al ... that's you brand amp isn't it?

I wonder if Mr. Wolf needs a tractor trailer to haul the largest VAC amp made into his factory. I gather his speakers will soak up as much watts as can be thrown at them.

I'll proceed with caution.

Thanks Al.
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almarg
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Bruce, yes, my amp is a VAC Renaissance 70/70 MkIII, from about a dozen or so years ago, but it has little if any similarity to the amps VAC currently produces (aside from having been designed in a robust manner by the same designer, Kevin Hayes). My amp uses four 300B directly heated triode power tubes per side, in push-pull parallel, providing 65 watts. The current VAC amps are all KT88-based, and are considerably more powerful. I don't need a great deal of power, as you'll recall, because of the efficiency and easy to drive impedance characteristics of my speakers.

The VAC 450S, btw, that was indicated by several people earlier in this thread as being particularly synergistic with the S5, cost $39K as of a couple of years ago. Its power supply and amplifier chassis together way 200+ pounds! And the other two amps in the 450 series are monoblocks weighing that much per side, and costing two and three times that amount, respectively!

All of those amps, btw, have output taps described as being suitable for 2 ohm loads. Mine even has a tap designated as being for 1 to 2 ohm loads.

Best,
-- Al
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