Manufacturers pushing their products and agenda in the forums.


In the deep, dark, past manufacturers participated in the Audiogon forums with a general sense of decorum and a sensitivity to other products that they did not manufacture themselves and which were, from a design standpoint, philosophically opposed to their views. 

What has happened? Manufacturers now post into the forums dogmatically espousing their myopic view of the hobby, shamelessly pimping their own products and view of the audio world and, even more disturbingly, running down opposing brands. 

IMHO, it may be time to throw the baby out with the bath water and ban manufacturers, distributors, retailers and importers. If they can’t get their act together they should take it on the road.
128x128viridian
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Can I make a suggestion. Sometimes it’s good to take a step out of internet forums for a few days and take a breath then come back in. When an internet forum becomes so much a part of your life that you start policing it maybe it’s time to step outside and take a breather.

The audio industry is changing and has been for a while. As well the late 90’s-late 2010’s generation of HEA is coming to it’s end game in many ways (the overbuilt over priced hobby). The new school is replacing the old and the old school (pre late 90’s) is having fun enjoying itself. There’s nothing about this hobby that is worth being abusive toward other members. That’s an issue for the forum owners to address.

I personally don’t read a lot of the threads here, but when I do happen across one that is an obvious flame I usually pass, because I don’t see the benefit or maturity in bashing. When I do see a basher the first thing that comes into my mind is "there’s a very sad person, someone who is certainly not a real listener". Real listeners are not unhappy people and if they are they usually keep to themselves. The folks you see disruptive on internet forums are not the real deal, never have been and never will be. Keep in mind that flamers can’t stand real folks and will do anything they can get away with to hurt others. Others of these folks honestly simply don’t have any other life of their own and these too are easy to spot after you are here a while.

Michael Green

http://www.michaelgreenaudio.net/

I've heard there is an Australian manufacturer who posts on many forums pretending to be a customer of the products he produces.  Constantly asks question about "how good are these products?" "Or can you tell me if these products are any good" and then has a couple of helpers chime in with praise.  He was quite active on Audiogon until recently. He was banned on the DIY audio forum for doing this and ridiculed on Stereonet Australia.  Stereonet Australia has a strict policy about manufacturers not using the forum for commercial promotion. 
viridian I hope you and mike green can kiss and make up...once you have all of mike's previous user names perhaps you can kiss them as well.....good luck and I hope you two have a long and lasting relationship..LOL 
I agree 100% with Elizabeth about the shill threads. They are advertising products, and this is supposed to be a discussion forum about audio/video. The fans don’t just use the threads they start to peddle their faith based tweaks, they infect other threads also. And they are spouting the same crap over and over again. Make them pay for their ads and separate them from the discussion threads.