Mechanical Hum from Class A Amplifier Clayton


Hi All,

Need some advise,

I have a paid of Clayton M300 Monos,

Speakers Tested on were Danley SH50 Horn 100db and Legacy Audio Whisper XD 94db

I noticed one of the mono block has a louder Mechanical Hum and tends to get hotter. The amps are giving off a Hiss sound with some mechanical buzz noise in the midrange drivers.

The other mono block has hiss and slight hum with a much lower Mechnical buzz from the amplifier. What concerns me is the Hiss noise. Its not only a hiss but some buzz mixed into it.

I tried connecting the amps directly to the wall socket and to a AC Regenerator and nothing seems to sort the issue out. Is this normal noise for a Class A amplifier to make a loud hissing noise? My Tube amps have a lower noise floor specially the Bob Carver which are dead silent, The ATI amplifier is Also Dead Silent.
dragon_vibe
I would think both amps should have similar characteristics in the noise floor. I had a Plinius amp that had two large toroid trannies that made a hum, and it had a hiss in both channels. It was just a big, powerful amp, that was noisier than most, but still sounded great.

That one of your amps is noisier and runs hotter, is an indicator of an internal problem of some sort. I would have it (or both) checked out by a technician.

Best of luck, regards,
Dan
Do you run them both off the same circuit? If so, then any residual noise or mechanical hum/buzz should be the same (w/in normal piece to piece variance). If they are not on the same circuit, you may have some DC offset on the circuit w the noisier amp. Class A vs AB should have nothing to do w it, other than a hot/warm idling Class A amp may put more thermal stress on internal components and cause faster wear.
Large torroids are susceptible to mechanical noise. The torroidal transformers and capacitance of these amps are huge. The M300s are fully balanced so the first thing is to give them a balanced input signal. A single-ended signal with rca-XLR adapters will not work due to ground issues. If you are coming out of a single-ended preamp you will need to use Jensen rca-XLR transformers, which work great and are very quiet. Do not use a power conditioner - run them straight from the wall. If you still have noise I suggest contacting Wilson Shen (owner/designer at Clayton) directly as he is one of the nicest people I have worked with in audio. He does offer a power supply upgrade for M300s that he did to my amps. I believe the upgrade includes better torroids, increased capacitance and other improvements. The result was an improvement to the already great SQ and elimination of any mechanical hum. Unfortunately the upgrade was not inexpensive but I am happy to own the M300s because I have heard nothing SS that sounds better (although there are many I have not heard).
my Preamp is fully balanced, Even when no source is connected the amplifier is very noisy. I am speaking to Wilson now probably going to send them back. Mines were purchased this year and came to me with a fault, I shipped them back to Wilson for repair and it came back faulty and noisy again. I assume its the power transformers are not designed well for the 220-240 voltage.
With speakers as sensitive as yours, a bit of noise shouldn't concern you too much. The difference in the heat output is a concern and should be looked at. Probably just a bias setting out of adjustment, but worth having it looked at.