Micro Seiki, or TW AC-1

And Syntax, let me just get everyone on the same page. Your mission in life is to bash a few brands and give your biased opinion about products you get deals on. It is well documented here so why don't you let it go. H I forget you can't. You have nothing better to do. Not even listen to music. I wonder why.

And Dgad, let me just get everyone on the same page. Your mission in life is to support brands and give your "enthusiastic" opinion about products you get deals on.
And both we know very well, that no matter what I write, you'll never get it, not in this life, nor in the next. And internet "documentation". Please, everyone with a normal working brain knows, to rate something you should have information from ALL sides. But "your enemy" is my enemy point of view is childish. Wake up baby, we are not in Russia where you are sent to Siberia for a different opinion.
Say hello to all other Fanboys but a Democracy has different rules. Didn't you realize that after all those years?

Maril555,

besides of following a church-approach if DD or BD is better or even Idler-Drive I may recommend the MS.
I have all drives and tested them very intensively. While the DD has some advantages a real Top Class Performance you reach with a well equipped big Micro-Seiki (BD) or an EMT 927 (Idler Drive). While the latter is very rare a fine MS-5000 is reachable. So why going for a new design rather than the masters of performance. Pls. forget the remarks some guys made on Mass-Turntables. I guess our friends have no even an idea what kind of performance these TTs are able to show in a good setting.

If you are open to Idler drive then you could also consider the EMT 930. It is well within a reachable budget and can be had with warranty from one of the ex-EMT engineers here:
www.EMT-Profi.de

good hint Pani - excellent machine!

www.audio16.com

Dear Thuchan: +++++ " . So why going for a new design rather than the masters of performance (MS ). " +++++

Masters of performance?, IMHO MS on TT does not deserve that title. I know you like the MS heavy colorations but that does not means is a top performer by today standards, as I said designed for the eyes and nothing more. Has more problems that it can solve.

Yes, DD/Idler has not only lower lower distortions but different " colorations " that maybe does not goes with you but I think that your " world " is IMHO only your " world ".

Thuchan higher moving mass on TT means higher distortions/colorations. Till today IMHO no one high mass TT design was designed with the " right " blend materials to " disappear " the self/internal resonances on heavy moving mass designs and the MS was one of the worst down there.

Why do you think that the vintage DD designs ( Denon, Technics, EMT, JVC/Victor, Yamaha, Pioneer, Sony. ) IMHO outperform almost any vintage and today heavy moving mass BD designs? because the drive kind of design?

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.