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Micro Seiki, or TW AC-1

I'm trying to decide between Micro Seiki RX 5000 and TW AC-1.
They are approx. the same price used (about $10K)
Both are belt drive.
Unfortunately, I don't have a first hand experience with either of the tables.
You can see my current set-up in my system page.
The reason, I want to make a change from DD TT to belt drive is just to try a different approach.
Also, I have a feeling, that the bass would be one of the areas, where MS and TW might have an edge over my current DD Technics SP-10 MkII
My endeavor into analog is fairly new, so I'm not sure what my final choice in analog would be, unless I try it in my own system.
What I'm really interested in is the following:
Sonic differences b/w MS, TW and Technics SP-10 MkII
Reliability
Service availability.
maril555
thuchan
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Maril555,

besides of following a church-approach if DD or BD is better or even Idler-Drive I may recommend the MS.
I have all drives and tested them very intensively. While the DD has some advantages a real Top Class Performance you reach with a well equipped big Micro-Seiki (BD) or an EMT 927 (Idler Drive). While the latter is very rare a fine MS-5000 is reachable. So why going for a new design rather than the masters of performance. Pls. forget the remarks some guys made on Mass-Turntables. I guess our friends have no even an idea what kind of performance these TTs are able to show in a good setting.
pani
1,219 posts
 
If you are open to Idler drive then you could also consider the EMT 930. It is well within a reachable budget and can be had with warranty from one of the ex-EMT engineers here:
www.EMT-Profi.de
thuchan
1,009 posts
 
good hint Pani - excellent machine!

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rauliruegas
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Dear Thuchan: +++++ " . So why going for a new design rather than the masters of performance (MS ). " +++++

Masters of performance?, IMHO MS on TT does not deserve that title. I know you like the MS heavy colorations but that does not means is a top performer by today standards, as I said designed for the eyes and nothing more. Has more problems that it can solve.

Yes, DD/Idler has not only lower lower distortions but different " colorations " that maybe does not goes with you but I think that your " world " is IMHO only your " world ".

Thuchan higher moving mass on TT means higher distortions/colorations. Till today IMHO no one high mass TT design was designed with the " right " blend materials to " disappear " the self/internal resonances on heavy moving mass designs and the MS was one of the worst down there.

Why do you think that the vintage DD designs ( Denon, Technics, EMT, JVC/Victor, Yamaha, Pioneer, Sony. ) IMHO outperform almost any vintage and today heavy moving mass BD designs? because the drive kind of design?

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
maril555 OP
619 posts
 
Dover,
What is "the ball insert option"? on Platine Verdier, you've mentioned? Never heard of it.
Thanks
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