Most Realistic Recordings


I was recently listening to my daughter practice the piano and I was enjoying quite a full-body sonic experience. I later went to my system and picked out a few piano recordings that I suspected were recorded well, but as I listened, I just didn't have anything close to the same experience. The piano just didn't sound right, nor nearly as full as I had just experienced while listening to my daughter. I know what pianos sound and feel like. I grew up playing many different types and understand their differences. I've done some research on recording pianos and have learned they are particularly difficult to record well.

As I've delved deeper into this audio hobby/interest and acquired more respectable gear, the more general question that keeps coming to my mind is this: How did this music sound at the time it was recorded? (presuming it was a person playing an instrument, not something "mixed" or electronic). Meaning, if I had been in the room, would I have heard or felt the same? Or is there something about the recording setup/micing/mixing/etc. that has failed to capture the moment? Or has the audio engineer intentionally filtered some of that out?

Now, being an audiophile (i.e., a music lover) has many paths and many goals. For me, I love lots of different kinds of music and am not too caught up in the ever changing landscape of audio gear and the need to try something new. I hope to get to the point where a well-captured recording sounds realistic in my room on my system. I like full-spectrum sound (i.e., if the note/sound is in the track, I want to hear it). I know that accurate, realistic reproduction through any system is depends a great deal on the equipment and the room it's being played back in. I don't expect my system to give me that jaw-dropping "I'm there" experience (yet), but some day I hope to get there.

So, to my question above, I would very much love to hear if anyone feels they have heard an album, a track, a recording of some kind that could be used to test out the "realism" of one's system. What would you say is a recording that more accurately captured the sonic hologram of the moment it was performed. Any genre is ok. And if you think a particular studio/company does this well, I'd love to hear about it!

And, please, I don't want the conversation to about gear or room treatment. This is about the recording itself, the source material, and how accurately the entire moment is captured and preserved. I respect everyone's personal experiences with your system, whatever it's comprised of. So, please don't argue with each other about whether a recording didn't sound realistic to you when it sounded realistic to someone else. Let's be civil and kind, for how can you deny what someone else's ears have heard? Thank you! I'm excited to learn from you all!

tisimst

@fstein 

It's not the recording. It's the speakers.

We both know that speakers are the weakest link in the audio reproduction chain. That's kind of why I left speakers (or electronics, or room, or setup, etc.) out of my question, because I don't want the infinite variety of gear to dominate the conversation. Every piece of hardware, from the moment the sound wave hits the microphone's diaphragm, to the time a new soundwave is created by the speaker, changes the signal to some degree so that what we end up hearing is not quite what was originally produced. Some pieces of gear affect it more, others less so. I think we can all agree on that. This is why I left my question more subjective.

I want to hear if you feel like you have heard a recording, whether on your system or elsewhere, that you felt sounded more real than not. Because, if you have heard something like that, then someone else might, too, even on a different system from yours! It might be the clarity and soundstage of the presentation, it might be the ambience was captured particularly well, it could be that the relative dynamics from each "voice" (whether human or instrument) was as balanced as if heard in person, it could be that you felt that "full body" experience you get when you are at an in-person event. It's up to you! If you've had that experience, I'd love to know what you heard so that I can try it out, too.

 

@lrlacosse 

Ahh!!  The search for the Holy Grail!   That's why we are all here!

It could be. I like great sounding music. Sometimes I'm really in the mood to hear something as if live, but not most of the time. Any suggestions for me of something you heard that had a more realistic feeling?

 

@larry5729, @snilf@manogolf, and @bdp24  thank you for all those suggestions!

i would imagine that at least in theory [i've never been privileged to hear an ambisonics recording on a full height-channel ambisonics system] that the full [height channel] ambisonics recordings in the right room would be the literal height of aural "you are there" realism. 

My best recordings were engineered by Rudy VanGelder at his NJ studio during the late fifties, early sixties. I have a copy of Rhythmstick, which was recorded there in the final years of it's existence (1990). It was co-produced by Creed Taylor who founded CTI Records.  It features Dizzy Gelespie, Art Farmer, Phil Woods, Bob Berg, Airto Moriera, Flora Purim, Jimmy McGriff, Robben Ford, Rumaro Lubambo, and notable others. It sounds fantastic as do most of the Rudy VanGelder engineered recordings.

Also, most anything mastered by Bernie Grundman sounds great as well.

My first "CD" purchase(early 80s) is Keith Jarrett - "The Koln Concert", original issue in 1975. An ECM issue made in W-Germany.  Solo piano.  I read somewhere he did not get the grand piano normally used and had to play a less quality instrument.  But he amazingly literally makes that piano sing and resonate/harmonics.  I have no idea what was used to record or method.  Recently purchased a JAPAN SHM-CD release.  Even better.  Through the many years my audio equipment has changed many times and I always use this CD as a go-to for comparison.   Can I hear his grunts and howls better. Is the foot pedal noise more present.

I have not read every post of this thread and know you did not want this to be a pissing contest for everyones audio gear but a recording could be the best possible in the world. If you do not play back on quality audio gear you will not hear it properly. 

I have yet seen someone mention :

Discogs - Music Database and Marketplace

https://www.discogs.com

This website is a bibliography of every album/CD release and all versions, country of origin and date.  I now use this resource to find Re-Masters of my favorite recordings.

Lawrence From MI

 

Two more jazz recordings:

 

Milcho Leviev Quartet's Blues for the Fisherman, and

 

The Chevalier Brothers' Live and Jumping