moving coil loading


I'm getting back into my audiophile hobby and dusting off my vintage gear. I have a question on the preamp loading impedance my Fidelity Research MC-201 cartridge. The specs for the cartridge are:

Stylus: 0.3 x 2mil line-contact solid diamond stylus

Output voltage: 0.16mV

Coil impedance: 8 ohms

Load impedance: 10 ohms

My Acoustat Trans nova preamp allows me to install any resisters required for loading the MC circuit. Just not sure on what value resistors to use. Any guidance would be appreciated. If more information is needed let me know

128x128vtacoustatx

must be an error, load impedance guidance: probably 100 ohms, not 10.

gain and load are inverse. high gain/low load. low gain/high load

yours is a difficult combination of very low signal strength and 8 ohm resistance.

an X Factor of 25 would boost 0.16mv to 4.0mv, I like that.

X factor 25 squared = 625. 47000 / 625 = 75 ohm load, a bit low ....

X factor 20 boost’s 0.16mv to 3.2mv weaker than I would want.

x factor 20 squared = 400. 47000 / 400 = 118 ohm load, good.

don’t forget, there is a slight loss of signal strength, i.e. calculated 4.0mv might actually be 3.8mv; 3.2mv might actually be 3.0mv, just guessing here.

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solution: for cartridges with these difficult relationships: a phono stage with separate gain choices and separate load choices. opens up the choices to nearly anything. they get expensive.

Or, change to a cartridge with more compatible relationship, in your case, lower impedance, or higher output.

 

 

I went from knowing nothing to learning here, then researching ... for myself and friends.

I made a virtual system with copies of SUT pages I have gathered

sut info

you will need to increase your screen’s zoom to read some charts

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SUT indications can be quite confusing, i.e.

my Fidelity Research FRT-4, in round numbers:

setting 3 ohms is x Factor 36. (+31 db)

setting 10 ohms is x factor 21 (+26db) (possibly what your #10 is referring to?)

setting 30 ohms is x factor 18 (+25db)

setting 100 ohms is x factor 11 (+20db)

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a borderline low signal strength needs to be checked against your preamp’s mm phono sensitivity, i.e. my mx110z preamp's phono sensitivity is 3.0 mv. thus the calculated 3.2mv above would not be my choice.

@vtacoustatx You are not loading the cartridge to any effect you can hear until the load is extremely low.

The loading resistor is there for the benefit of the phono preamp, which apparently is sensitive to Radio Frequency Interference (RFI).

The cartridge is an inductor and the tonearm cable has capacitance so they have a resonant frequency which is often 1MHz or higher. When energized, this resonance is essentially RFI that can mess with the input of many phono sections; hence the resistor, which detunes the resonance.

So ignore the stuff you commonly see about '10x the impedance of the cartridge'. All that's important for your phono section is the elimination of RFI. So the highest resistor value that does that is the right value.

BTW, when you load the cartridge you make the cantilever stiffer since you are asking more work of the cartridge. The industry standard for cartridge loading is 47,000 Ohm (47K); when you make it drive 400 Ohms you are asking two orders magnitude more work and that has to come from somewhere.

That additional stiffness is decreased compliance so the cartridge may not track as expected in the arm. It also reduces the ability of the cartridge to trace higher frequencies (both measurable and audible) which means there is a risk of the loading resistor becoming a tone control.

If the phono section is resistant to RFI at its input, its plug and play with no worries about loading (this isn't true for MM high output cartridges; that's an entirely different topic).

 

If the phono section is resistant to RFI at its input, its plug and play with no worries about loading

@atmasphere ,

That’s the problem!

We don’t know how resistant the Acoustat Trans nova preamp MC phono section is to RFI.

IMO, a load resistance of 10 times the coil impedance or higher will not severely load down the cartridge, and my advice to the OP is to try different values ​​and find what works best for him.

BTW, you can find the schematic of Acoustat Trans nova preamp HERE in page 8 and 9.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

 

 

@imhififan If that schematic is correct, that preamp is susceptible to RFI injected directly into its input via the tonearm cable. So the 30dB peak that can result from certain LOMC cartridges would likely cause the phono section to make distortion- which would likely cause it to sound bright.

If you look at the left channel input, you'll see that the input isn't directly inside the feedback network. So when the peak is active (which can be energized and set into oscillation by the cartridge signal) it can overload the input, creating a distortion similar to 'transient intermodulation distortion' that occurred with some high feedback amplifiers made about the same time.

Loading is probably the most practical solution; If the input were modified with RF protection (and stopping resistors in the circuit) it could be rendered immune. But most phono section designers didn't take the significance of putting an inductor in parallel with a capacitance... they figured if they had enough gain and proper EQ they were home free.

I would start with something a lot higher than just 10X (maybe start with 1000Ohms) since what you're up to is killing the RFI generated. The highest value that can kill it will likely also be the best sounding.