Need input on new speakers


Hi all, I currently have a pair of Vandersteen 1 ci+ and a Lyngdorf TDAI 1120 and I love it, but it does not shine when I listen to Rock mostly Grunge. So I'm putting a smaller room together it is about 12x12. I will be using a Rotel 1572mkii. I am in the U.S. and want to stay around $2000. I am disabled and permanently in a wheelchair so in the room I sit about 7.5 feet from where the speakers would sit. New or used does not matter, floor standing or bookshelf. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

gordo1962

@soix , I actually found those speakers on ebay before you provided the link, and I also found the review on Stereophile.  I find this excerpt from the review interesting:

"With its 86dB sensitivity and 8 ohm impedance, the RM22si presented a consistently friendly load to the three different levels of tube power output I employed over several months."

(and the author goes on to describe the amps he used, the lowest power being from the Mesa Tigris--anywhere from 20wpc to 35wpc depending upon which triode or pendode setting he used.)

What I found interesting (bearing in mind that I make no claims to have a real good handle on this stuff) is that a sensitivity of 86 does not seem like a real easy or "friendly" load for a low powered amp to drive.  And I am basing that mainly upon the discussions I have followed on this site.  (This was what I also questioned about the Totem Arros, a similar looking two way speaker in its own integral cabinet instead of stand mounted, with a sensitivity of 87 but nominal impedance listed at 4 ohms, and 20 wpc to 80 wpc being recommended power requirements.)  

I assume that what makes the Joseph Audios "friendly" is that the specs state that the 8 ohm nominal impedance does not drop below 7 ohms?  

 

I wouldn’t try to put together a system that “rocks” in a room that small. Your best bet is to upgrade the speakers in your main system and the recommendations above about moving up the Vandersteen line sounds like solid advice if you like what you have now. 

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What I found interesting (bearing in mind that I make no claims to have a real good handle on this stuff) is that a sensitivity of 86 does not seem like a real easy or "friendly" load for a low powered amp to drive...I assume that what makes the Joseph Audios "friendly" is that the specs state that the 8 ohm nominal impedance does not drop below 7 ohms?

@immatthewj  Joseph Audio speakers are a bit different because of their unique “infinite slope” crossover that is amp friendly from an impedance and phase angle perspective, which makes them easier to drive than sensitivity alone might suggest and why they are fairly tube friendly.  Also, the OP is not using a low-powered tube amp and the Rotel he’s planning on using puts out 120Wpc into 8 Ohms and 200 Wpc into 4 Ohms, which is more than enough power for these speakers.