New Esoteric P02 D02

22,5 for clock is what is typically recommended by Esoteric. That is what I use, although I have not tried any other to say the truth.

Regarding up sampling I do use 48/176 and happy with this setting. I leave all filters off otherwise. To me it sounds very well this way. Again have not done extensive listening with any other settings. Only esporadic. Maybe some day. For now I am happy this way.

If I have P-02/D-02 with G-0Rb, how I should connect them, as G-0Rb supports max 176.4kHz only.

1) G-0Rb (176.4kHz) --> P-02
+ G-0Rb (176.4kHz) --> D-02

2) G-0Rb (176.4kHz) --> D-02 (22.579MHzHz) --> P-02

Given all other factors equal, and I totally prefer highest resolution sound, is (1) or (2) recommended from the technical/engineering point of view?

I am aware that general connection is (1), BUT

- in page 6 of D-02 owner's manual http://www.teac.co.jp/audio/manual_esoteric.html

- in page 42 of this powerpoint http://esoteric.teac.com/download/P-02/Downloads/P-02:D-02_Power_Point.ppt

they indicate using connection (2)

Any thought from technical/engineering point of view?

Thanks.

Hi Opera Lover. Haven't read the documents you attach. I will.

But I had in my house the P02/D02 with the old G-0Rb for a trial and the sound was fantastic. Great improvement. I did use 1). Both units connected to the clock. I would imagine that is the best way of doing it by far. Did not even imagine connecting it the 2) way so can not comment but the whole point of it is the accuracy of the clock signal, I think.

Anyway try it. I think the advantage should be evident of 1) over 2) but let us know. As I said here, when I deciding to buy the new G-0 I tried first the 02s with the old model. The gain was great. It improved with the new clock even farther.

But the gain was greater from going with no clock to the G-0rb, than that of going from the old model to the new model. So enjoy.

I have just asked esoteric of the same question, here is their reply (applicable to G-0Rb only, NOT G-01)

"Because a PLL circuit of P-02 isn't used, connection 2 is more simple than 1 as circuit.
Please try connection 2."

If I understand correctly,
using (1), sync freq between P-02/D-02 is at 176.4kHz, and P-02's PLL is in the loop
using (2), sync freq between P-02/D-02 is at 22.579MHzHz (and PLL is OUT of the loop), and the source reference clock is provided by G-0Rb (not oscillator inside D-02)

IF the above understanding is correct, if the clock is G-0Rb or G-0s, (2) should be better in technical theory?

I have not tried the 2 different connection yet, as I am still burning in P-02/D-02 now (close to 200 hours mark)

Regards,...

Hi Guys, Hi Eelii, How are the tunes with the 9500's? I have been trialing the Synergistic Research Element cords with the latest Powercell mk3 ! This is a very different sound and really works well with jazz and rock for me, but the jury is still out!
As for the clock, Tim Crable from Esoteric e-mailed me and gave me the
" best way" to hook up the clock is both P-02 & D-02 directly to the clock and use the A1 & A2 ports turning off all other off. There were several reasons stated for this and it was the G-01 , not the Grb, but the logic is the same. As for the output, when you hook up to the Word in BNC on both the D-02 & P-02, I assume you went into the menu and turn off the word out on the D-02, that bypasses the clock in the D-02, and the P-02 has no clock so the combo cannot see a signal from the D-02!