New Speakers under consideration - but I’m afraid


I really like my speakers but I am considering an upgrade. I have B&W 801 S2 MkIII that I bought new in 1999 (re-coned with modded x-over). I’m afraid that what I get will not equal them and new may  just be different.

They are bi-amped with McIntosh up top and Krell on the bottom. Analog is Revox B77 and dig is Oppo 105D with Bryston DAC3.

I will also likely upgrade the DAC but this thread is about speakers.

I need a dynamic loudspeaker that is as good with chamber music as it is with acoustic jazz, rock and electronic music (everything but Country and Rap).

I haven’t heard anything yet but am considering Borrersen X3, Wilson Sasha and B&W 803 D4.

Should I be afraid or will these speakers all best a 25 yr old design?

ritter06

Well I listened to some speakers (in Atlanta) today.

Borresen X3, Sonus Faber Stradivari, WIlson Sasha V and Watt Puppies.

All in different rooms and different electronics (but all excellent- Mac, D’Agostino etc.). I used known and new source material (ear candy pieces from the dealer) to audition .Summary below:

X3’s were first and sounded quite good- if unremarkable (from memory to the 801’s). Well balanced and no warts. I could live with them.

Sonus were next up. Fuller with more bass but also mid-bass murkiness to my ear. 

The Sashas sounded great. Holographic, good sound stage and transparency (my fav kind of trans). 

The Puppies were last - but not least. In fact, the best. Fantastic transparency - even more so  than the Sashas but without edge or glare. Very balanced. Great coherence. Very  ample bass. To my ear the best of the 4, although close with the V’s. 

I went back to the X3’s for fun, and just 20 seconds was enough to show they were not in the same league.

Next up the B&W 802 D4’s, but already thinking about the Puppies. How different do the prior gen Wilsons sound to the latest iterations?

 

I'm in Marietta. You are wecome to stop by and listen if you are interested.  My system is posted: 

MY SYSTEM HERE

Nice looking system and I appreciate the offer. I leave tomorrow but will let you know when I come back.

@ritter06 - good job!  Nice assortment of speakers you’ve demoed which gave you a lot of input in deciding sonic preferences - X3s for great price/performance, Sonus Faber’s more musical presentation, and Wilson for accuracy excellence.

How different do the prior gen Wilsons sound to the latest iterations?

Very different- Wilson is at the cutting edge of high-end sonics so have been consistently designing and releasing new better transducers.  Their WP has also gone through a few upgrades before being dropped then subsequently reinstalled very recently back into Wilson’s product line. 

More speakers today.

B&W 803 and 801s with Mac gear (no 802’s unfortunately). Clear and crisp with the 803’s predictably lacking in bass energy and sounded “small” probably because they were flanked by other speakers and were too close together.

801s sounded much better naturally but suffered from being too close to the wall. Overall wonderful presentation. 

In the same room were Focal Maestro Utopias which the dealer was keen to show off. They sounded wonderful but I didn’t like the pushed “on-stage” focus where the music is all around you- prefer if more in front between.

From memory, the Sasha Vs (meticulously set up) sounded best of the lot. The quickness, clarity, soundstage, tight bass and natural mids  AND amazing coherence is just such a great and compelling package. I think I’ve found my speakers.