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No bass in the Proac Response 3

I've just had the opportunity to buy a Proac Response 3 from a fellow agon just recently. One of the foam the 6.5" woofer was
torn ( with holes) so I already had it replaced with brand new foam. The treble improved quite a bit once I had the foam replace. The midrand is still the same and I have to say the Proac midrange is beautifull. I can sit and listen to female vocal (Krall, Elle, Cassandra) music all day. There is no sign of harsh or etch at all.

However, my problem now is that the bass is nowhere to be found when I play rock/pop. I do the regular Proac reccommended speaker placement of 2 feet away from the wall and the deep bass , mid bass are all but lost. If I moved the Proac very close to the wall then I get stronger bass, but now my image and everything else got all messed up. A simple analogy would be like I don't feel the singer is standing in the rooming sing anymore once I move the speakers toward the wall. Everything is just so flat ( 2-d), but the bass is good.

The most simple weak link that I can see in my system is that maybe the Krell integrated is just not big enough to produce the kinda big bass that I used to. But another interesting thing to know is that before I got the R3, I also got a much smaller Proac supertower that produced bass twice as much as the R3; and the R3 is twice the size, but lacking in the lower freq department.

My system is following:
Krell KAV-300i (integrated amp)
Arcam DV-27 (CD player)
Sony DVD player + PS Audio UltraLink DAC
Proac R3 (Full range speaker)
ducchau
audioconnection
1,271 posts
 
I will presume you have speakers with the tweeters set up correctly on the inside of each speaker.
I would start with removing all of the sand.
Bring the speakers toe in so that you can see just a little bit of the inside cabinet wall of the speakers from your listening position.once you find your favorite spot in the room make sure your speakers are absolutely level, spiked and the nuts tightened snug up the plinths as well.
Any time you move the speakers
recheck and confirm the speakers are level and
not rocking.
Make sure you run the same type speaker wire on tweeter as the woofers. Run one CD player at a time.
If you have 2 going unplug the one you are not using.
Let us know how you made out
Cheers John Rutan
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audioconnection
1,271 posts
 
Having 2 CD players on at a time.
Its bad enough we have one cd player hooked up
but two can add even more digital noise back into the system
which causes line noise with a bite.
just keep the one not being used turned off while listening.
Cheers John
ducchau OP
12 posts
 
I've waited for more than two weeks already for the woofer foam to break in or break up and now the sound has started to open up. Although as Shadorne has put it, I don't get the boomy sound with chest-pounding/in-you-face bass, the sound coming out of the Proac is a very deep and tight bass. Anyhow, it's just something that I am going to have to get used to.

cathode
72 posts
 
Do you have the room properly treated? Good bass traps will always smooth out the low freq response and, somewhat counter intuitively, will give you more, not less, bass.
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