Nude Turntable Project


I could not fit the whole story in this Forum so have had to add it to my System Page.
I am attempting to hear if a 'naked' DD turntable can sound as good as Raul claims.
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NUDE TT81
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Dear Aigenga: A coincidence with your latest tweck: years ago I made it the same with my Denon's DP75/DP80, even I did it with both Denon platters ( the down side. ). I used sorbothane and works great I did it too with the MS RX5000 platter with good success too.

Now, I posted somewhere ( not in this thread. ) that I used a damping fluid/paint that was used several years ago to damp internally speakers ( it apply as a paint. In my speakers I think I gave it like 2-3 layers of that " paint " and works wonderful. ). Well I used with the Denonn's motoer covers to damp it and works really good too.
One " advantage " in the Denons is that that motor cover is not made it of one piece but three different ones and in some way when these parts were atached together trhough screws it damps in some way each to the other vibrations or at least change the frequency resonance and intrude the less on the final performance.
The other experience I had and have with this very similar Denon/Victor is that " still points "/metal like footers does not damp almost nothing and at least in my set up the pneumatic AT footers are way better.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
Raul, I was thinking about a paint solution but decided that I had the space to use this 3M product and that it would be even more effective.

I have the pneumatic AT footers under my pre-amp and I used to have them under my TT (I also used squash balls at one point)but decided that I didn't want any rubber creating a flexible suspension so I went with the cones. I don't expect them to damp anything but do hope that they will couple the TT to the granite and drain some vibrations from the TT.

The platter on the JVC already has a ring of rubber-like material on it from the factory. I was afraid of putting anything additional on the platter for fear of effecting the balance.

Your idea of the motor cover is an excellent one and I will gladly borrow it and dampen the motor cover on my TT as well. Thanks.
Halcro and Gary:

In this thread (here), dgad and dgarretson suggested using springs underneath the platform that supports the tt. The thought was that one could control the frequency at which the platform moves by calculating the load on the spring. Choosing a lower freq outside the audible range will ameliorate your issue, Halcro? I have no idea how to do the calculation but this should be kinderspiel for an architect.

I haven't myself tried it, but I did something similar (I believe) when I had my sp10 on spikes resting on a sandbox which was in turn supported by 4 AT 616's (which are just fancy springs?). That set up was a great improvement over what I had before. I was going to buy the springs to test whether they could give me the same results--but for far cheaper than the 616's.

McMaster-Carr has a bunch of different springs for different loads and compression rates: here
Banquo,
Thanks but I don't have any issues that require amelioration. Also,I prefer unsuspended turntables. No springs or rubber mounts for me.
Gary
Dear Aigenga: Well the blend material I used only sees and apply as a white paint but certainly it is not a paint. I can't remember its industrial name and I don't know if even still in the market, what I know is that works great.

I respect your opinion/take on the cones but as is possible to drain some TT vibrations in the same manner transmit vibrations coming from the granite that's a resonant material, yes is heavy but to resonant. Btw, I combined the pneumatic footers with the metal cones as you can read it in my virtual system:

+++++ " Both TT's seats over three Audio Technica AT-616 neumatic suspension isolators with inverted Tip Toes ( position ) on top of these AT isolators.

Anyway, you have the whole idea.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.