Open Baffle Experience


Much has been said about open baffles, including an epic website by the late, great Dr. Linkwitz but I've only heard them really once, playing absolutely garbage music (thanks Pure Audio!) at a hotel.

I'm talking here about dynamic drivers in single baffles without enclosures, not ESLs or Magneplanar type systems.

I'm curious who has had them, and who kept them or went back to "conventional" boxes?

I'm not really looking to buy speakers, but I did start thinking about this because of a kit over at Madisound made with high quality drivers.

 

 

erik_squires

3’ out from front wall is not a non starter in my world. Im certain my corner horns (the baffle face) are likely that far out from the corner (apex) so there’s that.

@audiokinesis I for one would love to hear your description of why the equal spectral balance…but I don’t want to high-jack the OP. 
I believe It certainly pertains to the question “open baffle experience “

 

I don't see why not.  They could be three feet from the front wall and you could sit around 8 feet from the plane of the speakers with three feet or so behind you.  It may not be ideal but could work.  I would treat the front wall with mostly diffusion and the wall behind you with absorption.  Also maybe control first point reflections but open baffle does not radiate much sound to the sides.

I'm no expert so maybe someone else has experience.

@audiokinesis 

Also a benefit of many open-baffle speakers is that the backwave has essentially the same spectral balance as the frontwave, and heavy drapes would selectively attenuate the short wavelengths (high frequencies), degrading the spectral balance of the backwave.

You cant have it both ways. The spectral balance you refer to is nothing but polar response. The polar response of an open baffle is unpredictable at best and horrific at worst.

Oh boy oh boy.  Can’t wait to hear the impending beat down coming to kenjit from someone who actually knows what the hell he’s talking about. Hee hee.

@johnnycamp5, here are four reasons why I think the spectral balance of the reflections should be similar to the spectral balance of the direct sound:

1. Timbre is more natural when the reflections fully support the first-arrival sound. Where the reflections are spectrally different from the first-arrival sound, they can skew the perceived timbre towards that difference. Also a rich and spectrally-correct reflection field inherently supports good timbre (as long as it decays neither too quickly nor too slowly), as is demonstrated by the acoustics of a good recital hall or concert hall.

2. If there is a significant spectral discrepancy between the first-arrival sound and the reflections, the ear/brain system has to work harder to correct identify the reflections. This is because the ear/brain system looks at the harmonic structure of all incoming sounds to determine whether they are reflections or new sounds. The more the overtones in a reflection differ from those in the direct sound, the harder the ear/brain system has to work to correctly classify them as reflections, and over time the additional "CPU usage" can result in listening fatigue.

3. The effective in-room signal-to-noise ratio can be degraded if the overtones in the reflections become inaudible before the rest of the spectrum does. (This can also be caused by excessive in-room absorption attenuating the short wavelengths moreso than the longer ones.) Once the overtones in the decaying reflections have become too weak for the ear/brain system to recognize them as reflections, they cease to be "signal" and become "noise". The net result is a raising of the effective in-room noise floor and a corresponding reduction in dynamic contrast and liveliness.

4. Reflections are the carriers for the reverberation tails on the recording, which in turn convey the venue ambience. If the overtones in the reflections are too weak, the venue acoustics are no longer effectively presented and the "small room signature" of the playback room is more likely to be perceptually dominant.

@soix, I don’t think kenjit has raised a legitimate issue so I won’t waste everyone’s time by replying.