Opinions and recommendations on active loudspeakers


May need to downsize soon and this seems to be the way to go. Just want to know if anyone thinks this is also the way to go. Also would like some thoughts on which models are worth looking into. Thanks Everyone!!!!!
seadogs1
Active speakers properly engineered, designed and built with top parts should sound great at home or the studio.   The is nothing about a studio that is different other than lower noise floor and perhaps more absorption.  The problem is a"better" speaker does not always make every recording sound better.  Reducing distortion reveals more and more about a recording- details or flaws that you've never heard before.  Distortion in playback, regardless of source, has a masking effect that covers up details.  It's the effect of getting glasses after a lifetime of blurred vision: you now really see enormous detail, but what you see is often not so pretty.   You might then ask why would we ever want that, to hear how awful our recordings are.  Well the benefit of hearing clearly is that you can finally hear the details the artist, engineer, mastering worked very hard to capture and reveal.  You cannot appreciate a Renoir if your vision is blurry.  If I play a high rez version of Michael Jackson Thriller, chances are you will hear a LOT of information you never heard before that will make you smile like never before.  Or play a George Massenburg recording and the same thing will happen (here's a list:
https://www.allmusic.com/artist/george-massenburg-mn0000945891/credits 

Play something poorly recorded and you may not be able to turn it off fast enough. Yuck!  An old rock and roll recording is likely quite bad, like Led Zeppelin.  Awesome music, horrible recordings (that did capture a cool moment in time anyway).  You sort of have to learn to separate great music from great sound because they are not related.  It's still fun to hear Elvis Presley with a band panned to one side and him to the other each with their own (very limited bandwidth) ribbon mic from 1958.  But you aren't listening to be amazed by the audio quality.  There's nothing you can do to fix this other than buy speakers with massive EQ built in to them and are high enough distortion you don't hear any flaws in the recording.  You would not buy expensive speakers if that's the only music you listen to.  But if you heard Sarah Jarosz on a fantastic pair of speakers- even if you dislike Americana-the recording is just so darn amazing its magical-a thrill in itself just to hear something that good.  You'll never hear that magic on a low rez, high distortion system. 

That's why active is important.  Its the only way to get a lot of distortion out of the speaker.


Brad
    


@lonemountain Exactly! I often get the sense that some people in these parts are simply EQing their system by other means. The clarity and lack of distortion with top quality active speakers/studio monitors may well tell some people more than they want to know about a recording, and such speakers can spoil a good bit of the "fun" of all the time tweaking. Myself, I’ve music to listen to.

A commenter, audiokinesis, on this thread: https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/frequency-response-or-1-db , made some very valuable and relevant observations about the desirability of a truly flat speaker response, and linked to a very interesting technical review of D & D 8c monitors. Well worth the read.

Oh, and BTW, for much more than just reference, I’ve listened to Sarah Jarosz & Co. live from 10’ away. Very, VERY, good...
Agree fully. And rather expensive and time consuming EQing. I can’t myself really see the excitement in trying to find a different (better?) sound from changing the direction of some very expensive cable. And certainly not a digital one. Once you get in there though, it seems very hard to get out.

Warmest recommendation for the master storyteller Guy Clark’s live recording "Keepers". When he was at his best. Best ever? Unfortunately not on Tidal at the moment. Like a lot of his recordings. Shame.
I listen to a lot of mono LPs and electrical 78s.  Despite 78s  inadequacies in frequency range and flat recording response, their dynamics and tonality often are mesmerizing (along with the performances).  The sound in my almost high end system, washes over me and fills the room.  I'm just wondering if a speaker like a powered bass Von Schweikert VR55K would sound as full and lush as my Legacy Focus speakers.  Once I got to almost high end equipment, cabling and tweaks ($70K worth), sound anomalies don't bother me anymore.  Poorly engineered recordings do sound less involving (although my wife likes her heavy metal and rock LPs/CDs).  I haven't heard a Led Zeppelin LP sound as good as a Steely Dan recording.  I latter group paid enormous attention to the recording technique.  
I would say the Doobie Brothers is the group that had the overall highest standard when it comes to recording technique in the 70’s and 80’s. And why not musicality as well. Just listen to Takin’ it to the streets. Not a hint of distortion or bad EQing or painful compression. Just perfect. On active speakers playing at 105db... :-)