Opinions on Bluesound vs Sonos.

Thanks.

One of the purposes that the Sonos Amp serves is that it is incredibly discrete. One unit. Easy to hide. This is important because those are the terms set by my wife to put the speakers in our fairly formal living room. So I would prefer single unit discreteness and single unit simplicity.

The Bluesound Powernode is $950. The Sonos Amp is $700 and claims to be 4 ohm stable and 250 watts at 4 ohms (which is unlikely) but still a lot more than the potential 160 watts into 4 ohms of the Powernode.

The Bluesound Node is $500 and I could pair it with a small amp like a PS Audio Sprout or a Peachtree Audio GaN1 (they bundle it with a Node for $1700) or maybe something from Schiit. But that's going to put the total way over the Sonos Amp and over the Powernode as well.

I may start a separate thread about people's experience with the Powernode.

Question- does anyone know if the Node will power-on or wake up an attached amp so that no remote is needed?

After doing a little research I do not think the Powernode is an option for me. It very well may be a better amp than the Sonos Amp for the types of speakers the Powernode is intended to drive.

However, Bluesound have not (and apparently will not) release specs regarding the ability or capability of the Powernode to drive 4 ohm speakers.

So if I go with Bluesound it will have to be with a Node and a separate amp.

I think you are missing out on a lot driving those speakers with Sonos or Bluesound amps. Stick with Sonos if you like it, they will fix their problems. I suggest using a Sonos Port connected to a decent integrated that does well at 4 ohms. 
 

That said, I have Sonos all over my house, but removed it from my main system after I tried a different streamer and realized I could do a lot better. 

@zlone I don't plan on sticking with Sonos. Too many problems for too many years. This current issue has been going on for two months and Sonos has made no commitment to fix it. That kind of disregard for their customers is the last straw.

My plans to switch could certainly fall through though. Starting over is a pain in the behind. I could get lazy.

But the Sonos system was primarily for my wife and she has less patience than I do with clunky, complicated and unreliable apps/software. She wants to push a button and hear music wherever she is.....and that IS the promise of Sonos. It just isn't the reality. She has had so many issues with the app. And to be clear...its not us...its them. The Sonos boards resonate with discontent regarding these common and ongoing issue as well as their disregard for customers.

Anyway, I've posted on this before but the Sonos Amp is better than most people are willing to give it credit for. I compared it with a beefy Bryston amp (which was huge and ugly and not permitted to stay in the living room). It was better to be sure. But not in a way that was meaningful to me. I am completely satisfied with the Sonos Amp as a component that fits a need...even with these speakers.

I have less confidence in the Bluesound amp and am not compelled to give it a try so I will be taking your advice to get a separate amp if/when I finally divest myself of Sonos.

@n80 Understood. I do not use the Sonos that much, but my wife does, and the complaints have been numerous. An amazing blunder for such a successful company and product.