Paradigm S8 vs. Sonus Faber Cremona M


I am having hard time deciding between these speakers. I can get each for about 6K used. I have auditioned them both at a dealer, and I like them both. However, I find it very hard to compare them given the lapse of time in between and the difference in gear and rooms. Paradigms have great reviews, but can they compare to the build quality of the SFs?
gago1101

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Sorry folks. I have to weigh in for the S8s. Their FR is ruler flat. I also agree with the comment above that the S8s sound best with the right equipment. I drive mine with ARC tube equipment and they sound terrific.

The S8s have been reviewed by many respected reviwers, e.g., Mark Mickelson, over the years and the S8s have garnered terrific reviews and high grades. Don't be fooled by price. Paradigm custom designs and builds all their components, except cabinets, in house to their exacting specs.

Paradigm also drops a ton of R&D into the S8s, which gets spread out over a huge product line. I doubt other "specialty" manufacturers can possibly achieve the same economies of scale.

I do NOT find the tweeters hot, maybe because I use ARC tube equipment. I concede that equipment synergy is important, but don't blow the S8s off just because of price. Many a reviewer has stacked the S8s against speakers costing multiples more. Also, Steven Stone did an "unscientific" survey of the top 25 speakers last October. The S8s came in #7, which is damn impressive considering the competition, some of which costs in the 6 figure range.

Finally, I acknowledge that the bass can drop off a bit, but I supplement my S8s with a Paradigm Servo sub woofer. Trust me folks, it has caused me tons of marital problems because pictures fall of the walls and dust shakes out of the ceilings, especially when playing Norah Jones.

It's your choice and I respect that one has to trust their own ears. All I say is that close your eyes and forget the price. Then listen with a little intellectual honesty and don't feel guilty if you wind up spending less. As usual, just my humble opinion.
Thanks for the update Gregg. My last post to this thread was 2 and 1/2 years ago. There's been a lot of water under the bridge since then. I think I upgraded my Paradigms to v3's and upgraded my ARC gear too. Not sure what the snapshot was back then, but I think I switched-out my older ARC gear for the Ref 5 SE, Ref 150 SE and the Ref CD-8.

But I think the biggest game changer was the DEQX PreMATE. Too much to say about the DEQX in this thread ... but for now, the gizmo corrects (tames) time alignment errors caused by the S8's high order x-overs and driver placement on the front baffle. In addition, it does room EQ corrections. I cannot overstate the impact this gizmo has had on my rig.

If you want to learn more, there's a thread titled "Is DEQX a Game Changer," or something to that effect. IMO, the answer is YES.