Paradigm Speakers


Waiting on my new Paradigm Persona 9F speakers to arrive next week. I'll be moving my Paradigm signature 8 series to another room. They will be overkill for the bedroom. After seeing and hearing the new Persona line. I decided life is short and they are the nicest looking and sounding speakers that will last me the rest of my life. Also along with the White floors and center channel, I purchased their book shelves in White. Expensive, but relatively inepensive for what Paradigm is delivering and equal or better than speakers in the 200k range. They really out did themselves this time around. The Signature 8 series are only 2 years old. Contemplating selling them, only because the are overkill for the bedroom. 
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Honestly Grpu you have your opinion and I have mine, 

However, you have been invited to actually hear the very system we are promoting for yourself, and to judge if it is indeed a magical pairing.

When prompted you say you "have heard the system before, or at other dealers showrooms etc."

Maybe it is time for you to get off your high horse and put your money where your mouth is and come and hear OUR setup.and then judge for yourself.

I have seen here at least two well known posters on every thread promoting the magic of Vandy and Ayre, yet you never pipe up to dismiss any of those posters or comment negatively.

The gaunlet has been thrown down, COME IN AND ACTUALLY HEAR THE GEAR!  

The Sound we are getting now is even better than the show setup, as we have added a Baetis computer and a Light Harmonic Dac both of those pieces are more rounded and analog sounding then the PDP 3000 we were using at the show, SO YOU HAVEN"T HEARD OUR CURRENT SYSTEM AT ALL! 

I forget that of course you are the self appointed guardian of good taste. and propriety so I am sure you won't come down, and even if you met me and Dave, yes I would be there, I doubt you would dare report your findings honestly.


You also fail to read, that there have been other people reading these threads that have taken our advice and have been thrilled by the results.

In the case of two of these people one bought a T+A integrated not from us, and the other is also in CA and is going to an event to hear the gear.

We are gaining nothing, we have advised other people of speaker selection which didn't mention Paradigm, and offered assistance on room tuning. 
Audiotroy:
You always miss my point. It's not about the gear you promote. It's about you and how you do it.  
i guess I do miss my point, the Forums are not supposed to be about one member harassing another. 

You don't have issues with the gear, you don't have issues with what I am saying, you have issues with the fact that I go on posts and try to give people advice, which so far at least three people have taken and made dramatic improvements in their setups!

Yes sometimes the posts have our products in it, sometimes they don't, what I find ironic is on many of the posts, is how bad much of the advice given is and it is usually by people without direct experience with the products they are talking about, I know most of these people are commenting with great intentions.

Take for example one guys post to check out a class D amplifier because the speaker uses a Class D amplifier, that is silly, If a speaker used a Class A amplifier to drive the  drivers other than the bass, then by that same logic you should use a Class A amplifier on the bass so they would match? The chance of finding an affordable 1,000 watt Class A amplifier that wouldn't over heat a room that wouldn't cost $100k is non existent.

We use Class D or Class H as subwoofer amplifiers as they can provide huge amounts of power cheaply and without heat or high cost. 

And here is a fact, we have tested:

ICE amps,
HYPEX
NcORE 

including a very highly rated $12k set of Ncore ampifiers and none of them had the magic of conventional amplifiers.

Analog switching amplifiers Chord, and Nuprime sounded great depeding on system matching. Nuprime sounds great with Legacy not so much with Persona.

The fact that you blatantly don't like us,  is sad, instead of visiting the store, meeting with me and Dave the store owner, and getting a demo of our facilities and product selection which is among the best on the East Coast, you rail about impropriety about a dealer posting, when i see several members posting the same things over and over, all over the forums extolling the virtues of Vandys and Ayre or ARC and Wilson, you never step up with a negative comment.

The Paradigm Personas are brand new so many people haven't heard them at all, The T+A gear was never really promoted until now in the US.

So by doing this we are helping people to hear these brands.

T+A is the LARGEST ELECTRONICS COMPANY IN GERMANY, they are roughly 10 times the size of MBL or Burmester, which also makes them about 10 times the size of VItus, and D'Agastino, Dartzheel, Gryphon and many others, THEY MAKE AMAZING GEAR that is heralded all over the world!  

Why do you think that is? Is it because of me promoting their products and selling a gizillion dollars worth of their gear?  

THE TWO REVIEWS I POSTED SHOWED THAT REVIEWERS ARE BLOWN AWAY by T+A.

DO YOU THINK that MAYBE we are recommending something that is actually better? OR  LESS EXPENSIVE  then some of these other brands, and therefore, MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS that WOULD SAVE PEOPLE MONEY and OR GIVE THEM BETTER SOUND!

TO DATE WE HAVE GAINED ZERO SALES Based on these posts.

WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY AT LEAST THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL and HAVE PURCHASED GEAR FROM THEIR LOCAL DEALERS OR ARE CHECKING OUT THESE BRANDS AND HAVE LOVED WHAT THEY PURCHASED!

Maybe you should listen to the message rather then hatting the messenger? 




@audiotroy so what relevance to this thread is your screed about class D amps? I think you've posted in the wrong place. And if you think we can't hear you - shouting isn't going to win you any friends. Finally the self important rambling about how much great gear you stock is just puff promotion. Could you please give it a rest and leave those of us with real value to contribute a chance