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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

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@phusis , I can only speak for myself, the reason I don’t use an outboard amp configuration and active crossovers is space consideration. For a two channel system NP, but when you have a HT with 5,7, or more channels it would be a monster to have to store all of the additional gear. Internal amps is the opposite, takes away the racks I need and gives me biamped speakers for less money than I could build myself. No doubt, it could be better and I know you can use the Storm Audio/Bryston SP4 HT processor DSP capability to run active crossovers for each channel but you still need to house all the amps somewhere.

Theortically you could do this if you got the Bryston SP4 processor and then 5+ of the Bryston active speakers but it would be complex and you still need to house all the amps.

https://bryston.com/preamps/sp4/

 

https://bryston.com/active-loudspeakers/

@phusis , come to think of it I may have one credential, maybe. The member not working in the industry with the most active speakers in a home theater-🎖

@phusis Something tells me a primary reason why active ATC speaker models are so coherent and well sounding is due the consistency of their excellent, in-house and carefully manufactured drive units being coupled to what’s essentially the same, quality class A/B amp sections, just scaled in accordance to the driver sections they’re feeding. That’s how it’s been for years - decades even - fairly unchanged and with no crass PR efforts or claimed "cutting edge" new tech nor dubious matching parameters to sell their product. They may be old school in that respect, but to hell with that: to this individual’s ears they’re still among the very best out there of the bundled solutions (along with Meyer Sound).

 

Thats it Phusis.

Brad

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@mijostyn , you have two people @donavabdear and me, who work professionally in the field, both apparently with physics backgrounds. As well I (and apparently @donavabdear) have worked with other physicists, acoustic experts (often physicists) and engineers who also have significant expertise.

😂😂😂. Cin Dyment: that’s very funny. Last time you were a Craigslist scavenger. Before that a battery businessman. Before that an acoustician.

In reality, you are just a sad dude with a Google Machine.

You are a very sick dude. Mentally sick. And a very bad dude. The worst I have ever encountered. And you know it

Thanks to the members who suggested I use a sub in with my new Sony TZ-HA1ES  dac/pre. So, I have a Paradigm PW Link streamer here that has a digital out. I connect the digital out (with an iFi SPDIF Purifier in the chain) to the DAC and the RCA out to my sub. Run ARC Genesis room correction, open the Playfi streaming app and bingo. This is a soundstage from two channel that wraps you in a cocoon of sound. Best two channel ever in my room. I still plan to get the DSPeaker 8033ii for the subs but this is another level from running it without the sub and DSP. The Link is on sale on the Paradigm website for $199. Audyssey charges $199 just for their software upgrade and DIRAC charges $499. This is like getting SOA room correction DSP and they throw in the hardware and the streamer for free. For the members wanting a room correction solution or just a refresh it is worth it. I have before and after graph of the results I'll post later, thanks.