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I have the Lavry and dearly hoped I could use it directly to my Threshold amp. I was disappointed, to say the least. The Lavry is a great dac, no doubt, but without a preamp in the chain, it produced a lifeless, clinical sound that repulsed everyone who heard it. Now, it could be my speakers, Revel monitors that lean towards accuracy, or my amp, or my room, but the Lavry's sound was just hateful without the preamp.