I liken my pre-amp to SS amp set-up as being something that burnishes the sound without any hint of foaminess that was the case when I was using pre and power tube amps simultaneously. I am, however, keeping the power tube amp and setting it up separately as a SS pre to tube power amp which can have its own hybrid sound advantages.
Preamp - what's the purpose?
Intentionally dumb question...
I've heard various 5-15W tube amps in my room. EL84, 300B, etc. They all have input stages and the output stage. I send them a line-level signal from a DAC.
Sitting a few meters away from my loudspeakers, the first watt alone gives me roughly 80db of volume. I think these amps are biased to expect the line level signal directly. Why wouldn't the designer do that?
So what's the point of adding a pre-amp? Why do people do it?
thanks in advance
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@r27y8u92 I have LPs and CDs I recorded. I find that using a preamp gets me more neutral sound as the preamp is able to eliminate the coloration caused by the interconnect cables- if you've ever auditioned interconnect cables and heard a difference, you know what I mean. I've also found that quite often if a passive control is used, when turned down from anywhere other than all the way up there is a loss of impact across the audio band- usually most noticeable in the bass. This is caused by the passive control being in series with the output impedance of the source (which might be a DAC). Active preamps do not have this problem. |
I was a complete non believer in preamps. All the while, I was not getting satisfactory results from a Grimm Mu1/MMT front end, with the Tambaqui going directly into my Gryphon Essence amp. Sound was too gossamer, poor dynamics and bass, even bought a subwoofer. After two years of handwringing and tweaking, finally started auditioning pres. Fixed all of my issues. I was looking at moving up the amp chain, etc. Now, I have my subwoofer turned off. YMMV, but the Tambaqui going directly into the Essence, as much as logic should dictate, is not ok. |
In my experience a pre is a clear improvement. I assume there are situations where it isn't but the first time I put one in my system I was close to shocked. I believe I was running a pair of Classe CA-200s bridged mono in addition to a pair of Infinity Intermezzo 1.2 subs. All out of a Benchmark DAC1 with the balanced out to the amps and RCA to the subs. This was around 2008. I bought a Bryston BP25 used for a grand. It made the overall presentation a ton more forceful and distinct. Bass was more distinct and the mids gained a lot of texture. I assume all the interconnects and multiple components were taxing the DAC output capability beyond what it could keep up with. The system may have lost a trace of transparency but overall it was much better. |
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