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PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium

Hi,

First and foremost let me say I’m not trying to start any war of words, bash any manufacturers products or any HiFi dealers. I’m just stating my humble opinion. In the words of Denzel Washington in the movie Malcom X we’ve been hoodwinked and led astray when it comes to the whole audiophile phenomenom. I recently owned a ARC REF 5SE, REF 110 and ARC solid state DS450M mono-block amps. They were driving my Magnepan 20.7’s and my Meridian music streamer. I just switched all of it out for a PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium HP amplifier with KT150 tubes and a PL Dialogue Premium preamplifier and two these ears my Maggie’s have never sounded so good. I’m going to add another PL Dialogue Premium HP next week and then I can honestly say I am done with my search for high fidelity sound. People please don’t let other dealers and manufacturers tell you, you need to spend $$$$ to achieve musical nirvana it’s all hype. I fell for that crap and I’m really embarrassed to say it. PrimaLuna is a superior musical instrument that honestly should cost 4 to 5 times more for their Dialogue Premium line. The build and features are second to none. Please please don’t let these dealers tell you other wise. It’s all about the benjamins and they want you to invest your hard earned money in there over priced crap. I invite anyone to listen to my system and tell me this isn’t as good as it gets and that this is not how music should sound. I live in Seattle and I  reached out to Upscale Audio’s Kevin Deal after 1 1/2 weeks of watching his videos and banging my head against the wall over my inferior lifeless musical experience. I took a leap of faith after reading several reviews and seriously doing some home work and made decision. Wow PL and KD thank you for not making me look like and absolute fool. I honestly feel like I stole from PL and Upscale Audio. Can’t stop tapping my feet and shaking my head. Bye for now and if one person listens to PRimaLuna after reading this thread my mission is complete. Peace,  Miles and Dizzy are on stage with Stevie Ray riding shotgun!
bluesy41
jetter
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Are you voiding your warranty replacing this or that?
bluesy41 OP
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@jetter 

That's the beauty of PrimaLuna components. They want you to roll tubes and create the perfect sound for system and listening preference.

bluesy41 OP
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@1graber2 

Right!

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jbhiller
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@1graber2 ,  If you like the Brimar 12au7, it's worth watching the used market for Brimar CV491.  There was a guy on eBay who had a pile of them in the Fall of 2016 and it looks like he's almost out now. I bought multiple matched pairs for good prices. 

On the power tube end, there's one tube Kevin Deal doesn't carry and I don't know why:   Tung-Sol 7581A. 

This is an EL34 variant and I just loooove it.  I liken it to halfway between an EL34 and a KT88. I'm not sure if that makes sense, but that's how my mind sees it.  

@johnss , I've noticed you've commented on the improvements that can be had by changing out electrolytic caps in the PL products.  I've asked for a bit more information and just then you're gone!  Can you jump back in and give us more information? 
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1graber2
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Thx JB re: the tubes,
im maxed out on tubes now, but will keep for reference.

And I agree, would be good maybe to have a sticky of summary of PL upgrade options and reliable shops that will modify, or DIY even better.
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