Question about adjusting the balance


I'll start out making my question to the point:

which would be better to use to adjust the balance using a sound level meter, a 315 HZ tone or a "uncorrelated (stereo) pink noise 20 Hz to 20 kHz" test tone?

Now I will add the confusion:  I placed my meter about where my head is when I am listening and checked it with the 315 Hz tone and it was WAY off.  So I adjusted by turning the input level knob (Cary SLP05) way down on the strong side.  Then I measured with the 20 Hz to 20 kHz tone and to get an even reading on both sides I had to turn the side I had adjusted way down back quite a ways back up.

Which do I trust if I don't trust my ears?

That is the uncomplicated the version of the question.  To post the full story, the 315 Hz test tone came from a CD that said to use it with an AC voltmeter to test the AC volts at the terminals (I used the speaker terminals) and one side was about 0.2 VAC stronger (if I remember correctly) so I adjusted the strong side down.  (Also I will note that I checked and the voltage imbalance follows the balanced input 6sn7  tubes, and I do actually have tubes that check dead nuts even, but I was playing with some different pairs.)  So no biggy, right?  Now I have the input knob for the strong side turned a bit lower and I put a small piece of making tape by the knob and made a dot with a sharpy so I could remember where I set it in case I moved it.)

BUT:  now I get the idea to test it with the sound level meter, so I position the the meter where my head would be and use the 315 Hz test tone and now the strong side reads EVEN STRONGER!  I am not trusting my ears so I continue to adust the strong side knob down 'til it is pretty far down but both sides read about even on the sound level meter.  BUT then I find a test CD with the "uncorrelated (stereo) pink noise 20 Hz to 20 kHz" test tone and the strong side is NOT nearly as strong!  So I adjust it to get it as close to even as I can using the "uncorrelated (stereo) pink noise 20 Hz to 20 kHz" test tone

and

it turns out it is about BACK WHERE I HAD IT  after I adjusted it using my AC vm at the speaker terminals.

I guess I should add that this is a VERY nearfield environment with my tweeters, and ears (so therefore my sound level meter) making a pretty much eqilateral triangle of 50 some inches and it is a "dirty" untreated room which I can definitely see having a bad effect on the balance on the sound level meter after I had adjusted it using the AC vm, but why would I get  db readings that were inconsistent (balance wise) with the different tones?  I mean if the balance was off--fine, I can understand that and adjust for it on the meter, but I guess my question is why does it show way far off with one tone and not as far off with the other tone--if that question makes sense.

Thanks.

immatthewj

@secretguy  , why is it hard to believe it is a serious question?

I use my sound level meter and run test signals with two different test tones and the meter indictates that after I balance the sound level by using one of the tones, when I check it with the other tone it no longer reads balanced.

I don't understand why that would be, but why is the question itself unbelievable?

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Thank you, @carlsbad2 , I’ll follow your advice, but since you are a physicist and I am only a retired mechanic, what would the explanation be for the sound pressure meter showing a different calibration for balance with the different test tones?

I’m a physicist and fully believe in measuring things when it is appropriate.

And with that in mind, and no sarcasm intended, do you feel it is appropriate to measure AC voltage at the (speaker) terminals since it does change sometimes when I change the 6SN7 tubes in the balanced input slots of the preamp? (And I can only assume that having more AC volts at one speaker than the other would make it play somewhat louder and therefore have an effect on the balance?)

 

Don't  be put off by "lopsided" speaker placement to achieve center focus of the stereo image.    

Your hearing and gear are not perfect (L/R balance)

Imagine adjusting binoculars.

The alternative is full techie absolute- mic/software, laser pointer and kniffle rod adapter.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. 

 

Don’t be put off by "lopsided" speaker placement to achieve center focus of the stereo image.

Your hearing and gear are not perfect (L/R balance)

Imagine adjusting binoculars.

Okay, I just didn’t think that there was anything unreasonable about placing a sound level meter where my head is usually at and then turning one speaker completely off and measuring the level of the other speaker, and then repeating the process on the other side, and then setting the input level knob for the speakers so that the sound level meter was measuring nearly the same db for each speaker.

My only question was why I was getting readings (balance wise) that were way different depending upon which of the afore mentioned test tones that I used.

That’s all.