Presumably there is better measurement equipment today which would allow the "fine tuning" of the various amps I mentioned in a fashion that might? allow them to sound very similar??
Questions re: GaNfet technology vs other designs.
How do the newer GaNfet technology amps compare to the HYPEX NC400, HYPEX NC500, HYPEX 1200 and PURIF Audio designed amps in terms of sound quality? And also how do these GaNfet technology based amps compare to class A and class A/B amps for sound quality?
It seems several companies are offering GaNfet Amps. For example, please the Orchard Audio Starkrimson 150w gan amplifier and the Atma-sphere Class D power amplifier (and several others).
GaNfet is claimed to provide excellent sound quality. Several class D mono blocks offer great sound as various reviewers have reported. I noticed there are several GaNfet technologies power amps available but not many integrated amps. I wonder why.
Maybe the better question is GaNfet Amps really for prime time? Your comments on GaNfet Amps are requested. thanks....
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He probably could have and maybe just did most of his work with a resistive load adding in a set of speakers for verification. He wasn't going to give away all his secrets. He did do things with his production models, but it would be good to question what are real sound difference, what is voicing, and what is marketing. |
Bandwagon jumping? I simply agree with Ralph’s succinct and clear explanation. I find it to be more on point and inline with the real world listening results people experience. Make no mistake, I appreciate your comment and perspective. I just find his more credible. That’s all. Good discussion. Charles |
You mean @atmasphere's unsubstantiated claim versus an effect (impedance impact on frequency response) that absolutely is undeniable. I find that most people make 0 correlation between listening results and the underlying cause so assigning cause to a result without knowing what it is does not lead to a valid conclusions. Bob Carver's challenge is a strong data point. |
@theaudioamp Our OTLs are intentionally designed to work without feedback and so do not operate on the principle of voltage driven loudspeakers. Like SETs, you have to be careful of the loudspeaker used to get proper response that isn’t colored. See http://www.atma-sphere.com/en/resources-paradigms-in-amplifier-design.html for more information. This is done with intention since its impossible to apply the kind of feedback you need to really get rid of distortion that is otherwise generated by the application of feedback itself (this occurs because the feedback node is always non-linear, which means that the feedback signal itself gets distorted before it can do its job). As Norman Crowhurst pointed out decades ago this causes generation of higher ordered harmonics. You need +30dB to get around that problem and since tubes won’t have the gain bandwidth product to allow for 30dB at all audio frequencies its a Sisyphean task. So zero feedback is how the harshness of feedback is avoided since in a tube amp you still have pretty good linearity if you’re careful. So the OTLs were not a good example. If the amp has enough feedback or else a low enough output impedance to act as a voltage source then you really have to ask yourself why one can sound bright while another does not- because if its acting as a voltage source there is inherently no frequency response variation. If you’ve not found any information about why the higher ordered harmonics are so audible when in such small amounts, its easy to demonstrate with simple test equipment. IOW you’ve not looked all that hard. The ear uses the higher orders to sense sound pressure. If there are higher ordered harmonics added to a signal, they will be perceived by the ear in two ways: louder, and also harsher. Because of ’louder’ that also means brighter (and Mr. Fletcher and Mr. Munson don’t help). If you need to know the procedure to demonstrate this to yourself let me know. The ear/brain system has a variety of tipping points in its perception of sound. Since it assigns a tonality to all forms of distortion (the ’warmth’ of tubes for example being caused by the 2nd and 3rd harmonic) it will pay more attention to this sort of tonality than it will actual FR errors. You might be looking in the wrong place if you go to ASR and Stereophile; as best I can make out they don’t seem to have made the connection (yet) between measurements and audibility. |
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