Relate sensitivity/impedance to speaker efficiency


Can you help me relate speaker sensitivity and impedance to how efficient speakers are relative to one another?

What I mean is, given 2 speakers with the same or similar sensitivity (say 89 or 90), if one has a nominal impedance of 4 and another has a nominal impedance of 6, would the higher impedance speaker be easier to drive? Would the higher impedance speaker perhaps offer more flexibility in amplification (perhaps allowing the use of tubes?

What matters more for ease of amplification - a speaker with higher sensitivity or a speaker with a higher nominal impedance? (i.e. given similar nominal impedance, going from a speaker with a sensitivity of 87/88 to one with a sensitivity of 90/91; or given a similar sensitivity, going from a speaker with a nominal impedance of 4 to one with a nominal impedance of 6 or 8?)

I realize the answer to these questions is probably more complex, but are there some general rules to use as guidelines before actually trying the speakers out?
nnck
Actually, I beleive a doubling in perceived loudness corresponds to a 10 dB increase. A 3 dB increase in sensitivity means the speakers need 1/2 the power input to give the same perceived loudness. So, yes, more sensitive speakers are easier to drive to louder levels. Impedence correlates with how much current the amplifier must provide at a given power level. So, an amp with lower current capabilities, such as a tube amp (as a generalization) will find a higher impedence speaker easier to drive.

As you suggest, it is more complicated than that, as nominal impedence of a speaker does tell you whether there is a very low impedence at a particular frequency, or whether phase shifts at some frequencies may require more current capability. I'll leave those details to the real experts.
A point which can be important to keep in mind is whether the speaker sensitivity is defined with respect to an input of 1 watt, or with respect to an input of 2.83 volts.

2.83 volts corresponds to 1 watt into 8 ohms. So for an 8 ohm speaker, the sensitivity number would be the same for both definitions.

However, for a 4 ohm speaker 2.83 volts corresponds to 2 watts, so a sensitivity of 90db for a 2.83V input would be equivalent to only 87db for a 1 watt input.

2.83 volts into 6 ohms corresponds to 1.33 watts, which means that a sensitivity of 90db for a 2.83V input in that case would be equivalent to about 88.75 db for a 1W input.

Although as was indicated above speaker impedance can vary considerably as a function of frequency, so it's all a very inexact science.
What matters more for ease of amplification - a speaker with higher sensitivity or a speaker with a higher nominal impedance?
Sensitivity in itself just relates to how much power is required to produce a given volume. "Ease" of amplification, and versatility with respect to what kinds of amplifiers would be good matches sonically, are dependent on nominal impedance (the higher the better); how constant the impedance is as a function of frequency (the flatter the curve the better); and to what extent the impedance is capacitive, especially at frequencies where the impedance magnitude reaches low values. Capacitive impedances correspond to negative phase angles in impedance plots that you will see in some reviews, especially those in Stereophile.

Regards,
-- Al
No one says it better than Al! the only thing to add, is that many tube amplifiers will sound "better" driving a higher impedance load, which I am sure Al and Atmasphere can provide the technical back-up for. This is reported to be especially true for output transfomerless (OTL) tube amps, which is the reason that some people use impedance multiplying devices like the Speltz boxes between OTLs and lower impedance speakers. Just to show that, generally, you can't generalize, many people report that Sound Lab electro-stats mate very well w OTL amps, and they have a low pretty low impedance at some frequencies.
You could try asking in this forum about specific speaker models as it is likely someone here has empirical knowledge of how they perform with different amps.

However I have been surprised many times by how well some speakers sound when matched with a tube amp that supposedly was way too underpowered. My general rule of thumb is a good sounding amp usually sounds good regardless of the speakers, and you'll never know for sure until you try it.
Thanks for all the info. It's all good to know and I feel that I'm learning a lot.

To get into some specifics as Mmike84 suggested - A couple specific speakers I am considering are the Dali Helicon 800 and Acoustic Zen Adagio.

The Dali Helicon 800 is a 4 ohm speaker with a listed sensitivity of 89.5. I see the units shown on the Dali website are 2.83 V/1 m. According to what Almarg is saying this would correspond to a sensitivity of 86.5 for a 1w input - is that right?

The Adagio is a 6 ohm speaker and the website lists the sensitivity as simply 89 dB SPL @ 1 meter (doesnt indicate 1w or 2.83 volts). I noticed a couple of other websites reviewing the speaker list it as 89 dB / 1w / 1 meter. But I have sent an email directly to Acoustic Zen to ask them to clarify.

If the 1w / 1m unit is true for the Adagio, then according to what Almarg is saying, to directly compare these speakers you would have to say the sensitivity of the Dali is 86.5 vs 89 for the Adagio for a 1w input.

Also, the impedance curve of the Adagio is fairly flat as seen here in the 6moon review: Adagio curve

Unfortunately I cant find the same curves for the Helicon 800. The closest I can find is the Helicon 400 from the stereophile review and it drifts a bit more: Helicon 400 curve

Anyway, the ability to use tube amplification successfully is one important criteria for me in choosing the right speaker. Of course, there are several other things I am considering (room size, placement, price, etc). But if anyone has any opinions about how these speakers might perform with tubes relative to one another, I'd like to hear more. Thanks again.